People are unemployed because they want to be, 'sez Tom Delay

How are you defining “sub-optimal”? Because if you mean “not my dream job, but pays the bills”, I agree. If you mean “less than unemployment, which I’m already struggling to pay my bills with”, well… bite me.

I don’t work in Silicon Valley, I work in education.

It’s also SOP to assume your immediate surroundings will detach themselves from California and float off into the Pacific one day, isn’t it?

I would not expect a rational person to accept a job paying less than unemployment unless there were some really good reasons for doing so.

Well, welcome to the future, my friend!

My apologies then, I was preemptively preparing an obscenity-laden response to a “pull up your bootstraps and make due” attitude. :smiley:

I agree that, in some cases, it might better to continue taking unemployment rather than take a job for which you are overqualified. But unemployment payments don’t last forever, and in this economy, with no guarantee of any job at all, i’d damn sure take a job that i was overqualified for if it meant being able to pay my bills.

Also, i have little sympathy for an employer who whines about people who take one job and keep looking for a better one. If employers want to complain about a culture where people are willing to ditch one employer for another after a short period of unemployment, they need to also take a look in the mirror. If everyone is always looking for a better job, and if people feel no obligation to hang around and take less money at the same company, that’s partly because employers have also, for the most part, shed any pretense at loyalty to their workers. As long as companies feel no compunction about laying people off when it benefits their bottom line, people should have no compunction about accepting a job even if they know they are going to ditch it the moment something better comes along.

Also Translucent Daydream said s/he doesn’t like it when someone takes sub-optimal jobs while waiting for another one to come along. I got the impression that s/he holds this against a potential employee when such a job appears on the applicant’s resume. I’m not criticizing the idea that an employer prefers to hire someone who will stick around; that’s perfectly understandable. What i am criticizing is the idea that an employer would be so stupid as to fail to realize that, especially in the current economy, some people have to do this in order to survive, and it is not indicative of some sort of moral failing on the applicant’s part.

negative

(unless i missed the sarcasm smiley, in which case I got whooshed)

Right… and that is the main reason we try not to hire anyone thats over qualified, to which people bitch at us saying “look I have way more experience than everyone else, you should have hired me…”

Gotta look out for my department.

Isn’t everyone always in a transitional job, always on the lookout for something better? Unless you are retired or starting/run your own business, of course.

I hear some people like their jobs, but it’s just a rumor.

Well, liking your job and being open to a better one aren’t exactly mutually exclusive.

A lot of people still do the climb up the ladder sort of thing and the institutions they are at, but I am totally going to become self employed once I can get a working model of my agribusiness to show investors.

As someone who has hired many people over the years, I agree that one should be very cautious about hiring someone significantly overqualified for a particular job. But we were originally talking about someone who did have job offers, and who didn’t take them because they weren’t optimal.

Right, and a lot of people are only hiring at more entry level positions, so if I was a laid off project manager or some other fake thing like that, it would be harder for me to “just go get a job” and “get off of unemployment” when nobody is hiring at my level. And taking that entry level position when you have an established career at a much higher level can totally molest your resume as well. Although, due to the economic situation, I would think that employers would be more understanding as well. Just everyone is being cautious I think, from employers to employees. Everyone feels that they only have one shot at getting things right.

If any people out of work need money they can work for my company.

Be your own boss, set your own hours, it’s easy.
We specialize in lost coin retrieval.
You simply walk around and pick up loose change off of sidewalks.
Send me all that you find and I will pay you a full 50% commission.
Find $500 and you earn $250. YMMV.

Boy, what a dumbass! How do you even know that they’re sending you all the coins they find?

You mean some people would CHEAT me?:eek:

Pretty much all of them, I daresay. The one’s who don’t, we should encourage to public office.

And I thought someone would complain about me ripping off an old firesign theater bit.

But even here someone who has a resume showing he jumps jobs every six months is going to find himself unwanted. Every couple of years, no problem.

I’m not actually arguing against someone taking any job they can get - I’m just trying to support bosses who might not be interested in them.