One does not look foolish merely for believing something is false. One looks foolish for believing something that is obviously false. The rape accusation is plausible because it fits Platner’s overall pattern of behavior.
Does that also apply to the Duke lacrosse team and the UVA chapter of Phi Kappa Psi?
LOL, dude, this argument is not getting any better with repetition.
An “overall pattern of behavior” which consists of… being a shitposter on Reddit.
Ducking the question because it contradicts your “only guilty people get accused of rape” spin isn’t doing you any favors.
There a Jake Tapper CNN interview with the victim:
You might turn on close captioning if you have trouble hearing it.
I’m surprised he took time out from his hard-hitting investigation into how Biden Is Old.
So, the Smapti Show has jumped the shark paper towel tube?
Again, it was never about the tattoo, or whether he was a secret Nazi, but about the pattern of poor impulse control, poor judgment, and weak character that getting the tattoo suggests. All of which has been borne out in spades.
And more over than that, it was about the idea that it’s reasonable for people to have a red line that makes a candidate unacceptable regardless of partisan advantage. Many in this thread mocked the very idea and then suddenly realized that yes, rape is a red line.
This still the fact that all the domestic violence and misogynistic behavioral allegations were public before this (particular) rape allegation. The fact that Platner also made comments blaming women for getting drunk and getting raped (big yikes moment at the time, more so now). All of this was BEFORE.
It was always about the pattern, not secret Nazism. The tattoo didn’t have to tell you he was a Nazi, but it told you he was capable of exactly the nasty abuser shit that he was accused of before the rape came out. But you needed a rape allegation to listen to the domestic violence allegations, because until then it was “just a tattoo”.
I’d rather have a person of poor impulse control, poor judgment, and weak character, than Susan Collins.
Platner CANNOT win at this point. His only contribution would be to add toxicity to the Democrat brant, nationwide, in a race that’s already been nationalized. What you’re advocating for is a moronic, quixotic run at Collins at the expense of races in other battlegrounds. It’s what a dumb person thinks smart political strategy looks like.
It takes a special kind of idiot to think Platner was ever going to win in the first place, but to think he could still win NOW is a profound stupidity that can’t even be described in words.
Then Collins has won.
The people of Maine wanted him to win, he ought to have won, and he could still win if not for the DNC deciding to punish him for putting their AIPAC feed tube in jeopardy.
Yes, thanks to idiots like you who uncritically boosted a rapist in spite of all the red flags. You handed her this. Well done, asshole.
Horseshit. He was lagging in the polls even before this story broke. The more they learned about him, the farther his stock fell. We can only thank his accuser for breaking the story while there’s still time to swap candidates, for all the good it will do.
I love that your argument here ultimately reduces down to “the so-called victims are lying to help Democrats protect the Jews”. Really illustrates what it means to be a Platner supporter better than anything I could say.
He was leading Mills by 30 points before she dropped out. You wanna tell the Democratic voters of Maine how stupid they are?
He’s not a rapist no matter how many people AIPAC pays to say he is.
I love how I’m simultaneously being accused on this board of hate speech for being pro-Israel and a conspiracy theorist for opposing AIPAC (which people around here usually hate except for when they’re paying people to oppose progressive candidates). I’m Shrodinger’s antisemite, somehow, despite also being in the process of converting to Judaism.
AIPAC isn’t “the Jews”. AIPAC is a corrupt lobbying arm of the Likud government that spends its money to prop up politicians who will carry water for Netenyahu and uncritically support whatever that wannabe Palpatine does in his pursuit of an autocratic ethnocracy that runs counter to the values that both America and Israel were founded upon.
Opposing aipac doesn’t make you a conspiracy theorist. They suck. Thinking they (or “the DNC”) have some magical ability to manufacture support or opposition makes you a conspiracy theorist.
Getting a nasty-looking tattoo to commemorate being in a nasty war is not, IMHO, evidence of poor impulse control. And keeping a tattoo with significant sentimental value, even after you learn that it happens to be an obscure Nazi symbol, is not evidence if poor impulse control, nor of secretly being a Nazi, IMHO. Symbols mean whatever meaning you and the people around you invest in them. Lying about when you learned the tattoo had Nazi connotations is a small lie, the sort of lie 100% of politicians engage in. (Yes, i think he lied about that.)
I have said before that i don’t have a red line, that i always think you should vote for the one who is less bad. If i were in Maine, and he stayed on the ballot, i might still vote for him. Clinton was a pretty good president despite being a rapist. (And I’m pretty sure he was also a rapist.) But he’s certainly a dumbass. I’ve never said i thought he was a good candidate. He’s got a lot of other baggage (like his nasty shitposting on Reddit, like his other interactions with women, like his tattoo that still looks kinda white supremacist)
But this hugely drops his odds of winning. I didn’t vote for Clinton’s reelection because i didn’t want to vote for a rapist. I’m all in favor of pressuring Platner to step down and let the party pick a less-flawed candidate.
The big thing for me is that anyone who’s accusing people who disagreed with them about Platner of being stupid is a fool. Obviously people of good will and keen intelligence found themselves disagreeing about whether Platner was white and gold, or black and blue. It’s okay to see things differently. If you’re so confident in how you see it that you insist it’s obvious, or that those who disagree are lying or idiots, what you really demonstrate is that you hold a shaky theory of mind, and aren’t really capable of understanding that there can be multiple conclusions drawn from the same set of facts.
That said, the dress is no longer white/gold or black/blue. We have more information now. Platner is no longer in that state of ambiguity; his wave-form has collapsed.
If you insist, despite the additional evidence, that the dress really is white and gold, there’s something wrong with you. If you’re insisting that Platner is the victim of the DNC, there’s something wrong with you.
I’ll repeat again, this was never about him being a secret Nazi (at least not for me), it’s what that tattoo signified in context of every other red flag that was thrown about Platner.
Now that you know there are credible rape allegations against him, does this not cast the Nazi tattoo in a different light? Still willing to believe it was a one-off, just the sort of knuckleheaded thing that a young scamp would do on a lark? You need not believe he’s a secret Nazi, just kind of an all-around rapist douche edgelord who treats women like shit, and simply thought he could get away with having a Nazi tattoo just because… I dunno. Because who are you to say he can’t.
All of this was evident before the rape allegations. The Nazi tattoo ought to have been a “duh” moment, and the rape allegation is the “should have seen it all along” moment.
I remain baffled that anyone ever saw it as anything other than light blue and tan.
As has been said about 100 times in this ~450 post thread: Planter was always known to be a bad to terrible candidate. The only problem was that the alternative, Collins, was known to be even worse as a sitting senator.