People Who Are Ignorant About Casino Life (RANT)

I play poker. I don’t think I have mentioned it that often. I love what I do, but the worst thing about playing poker is dealing with people’s perception about the game.

It tends to be at one extreme or the other. That either it’s a pathetic degenerate activity or it’s a glamorous game requiring genius and clairvoyance. People think the same about casinos in general. That they’re super nice places or just one stop away from hell.

It’s somewhere in between. You know. Casinos attract all kinds of people. Tourists, partiers, business men on trips, nerds, regular people, gambling addicts, and degenerates. The good, bad, and ugly. Blackjack tends to attract tourists, business men on trips, and regular people. Craps tend to attract gambling addicts and degenerates. Slots tend to attract regular people, gambling addicts, and degenerates. Poker tends to attract nerds and businessmen. You’ll see a degenerate here and there, but they are not that common in poker.

Well. I’m sick and tired of hearing people’s uninformed opinions about poker and casinos. People either think of me as a gambling addicted loser or some gamer genius. You would think the latter would be a cool thing, but it really intimidates people. Sometimes people think I’m rich and resent me. Other times, people ask me for money that I don’t want to give away. I’m not poor, but I’m not well off either. I’m not one of those people you see on TV. My goal is to get to “well off”, but I’m not suffering right now.

You know what another thing that drives me crazy? Is that poker is gambling! WTF? Well, there’s an element of gambling in poker, but most of it is skill. I’d say 70% skill and 30% luck. You compete with people, and not against the house. If you are good at poker you will come out ahead, it is not the same thing as dumping your money at the slots or crap tables.

Then you have people who say they would be terrible at playing poker because they have a bad poker face. Yeah, it will be harder to make money if you are easily “read”, but reading tells is a small part of poker, unless you’re just playing 1/2 no-limit poker. Good poker requires memory skills, psychological tricks, hand analysis, knowledge of probability, knowing your opponent, bankroll management and self-discipline. And lots of other stuff. I have about 7 books on my kindle. Two of those books I paid $50. How to Read Hands at No-Limit Hold’em and Playing the Player: Moving Beyond ABC Poker, both by Ed Miller. Poker isn’t some frivolous activity, if you take it seriously. Many more poker books on my bookshelf.

Oh my, and you have those who want to come and join me. They think they can BECOME A POKER PRO IN TWO MONTHS!!!1 Wow, I’d say it takes at least two years before you start making money. After lots of studies. Reading books, participating in the two plus two forums, and possibly poker coaching. It annoys me when people think poker can lead them to instant riches.

It also sucks when people don’t understand swings in poker. There are upswings and downswings. Just because you are on a downswing doesn’t me you are going to go broke, and just because you are on an upswing doesn’t mean that you’re a good player. All swings mean that while you can make money at poker, you cannot predict when you’ll lose and win. If you’re good your mountains will make up for your valleys, but you cannot predict those mountains and valleys.

You complain about people calling poker a “degenerate activity” and then go on to call people playing craps degenerates?

Reading tells is of limited use at any level of poker. Man, I don’t know how much 1/2 you play, but at 1/2 NL you can play about as well as you possibly can without even looking at your opponents’ faces at all. Play solid ABC poker, avoid tangling with anyone who plays like they know what they’re doing, and you’ll do fine.

The notion of “tells” being of much use at all in poker is ten or fifteen years out of date. Nobody out there is giving away their flopped full house with an obvious tell. Everyone knows the tells and has read Mike Caro, and if you do see a tell there’s no way to know if it’s legitimate or the person read the same part of Caro you did and is trying to bullshit you.

Well it looks like you got the poker covered so how are the buffets at the casinos?

Little-known fact: the asterisks in OP’s name are actually “os” and “a” respectively.

Those loud bells going off in the background are giving me a headache. Are those the slots or the draw poker machines?

Smoke alarms.

Wasn’t your last OP about how you got “hustled” into losing money playing slots?

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone who doesn’t think this is a troll account?

Nope.

But then it’s hard not to be suspicious of the guy who comes running in, drops his pants, and dances around yelling “LOOK AT ME!! LOOK AT ME!! WON’T SOMEBODY PLEASE LOOK AT ME??!!”

I’ve named myself after a (common) craft beer, assume you don’t know the name of it, but I’m totally not a hipster!

I originally had him pegged as a doofus 20-something hipster-wannabe from some small town where drinking a common craft beer and knowing someone gay makes you edgy. But his “woman” thread in IMHO swung me to your way of thinking. Even hipsters couldn’t be so fucking clueless.

Not a problem. You don’t go around telling everyone how cool you are for naming yourself after a craft beer.

Ooooh I have a good idea… forwards request to change my account name to BudLghtL*me

Bud Laught Lame?

That makes me look stupid. I’ve been telling people the beer was named in his honor.

I was thinking about changing my username to Jenny Cream but I was worried some people might misinterpret it.

Bolding, mine.

Sorry Charlie, but you’re dad-gummed wrong about “tell reading” being a small part of poker. It is, in fact, a huge advantage, if you know what you’re doing—and I always know what I’m doing. I have as my cite, myself. I don’t like to toot my horn (unless I’ve eaten too much cabbage), but I’m a card hustler extraordinaire. I can’t tell you how many large pots I’ve won against sophisticated card sharks, solely on my laser-sharp ability to read tells.

…Granted, when I say large pots, I mean one pretty big pot…of gummy bears. And, when I say “card sharks”, I mean my somewhat senile nanna. And when I say “cards”, I mean “Go Fish.”

…But, I just knew that bitch was holding 5’s…I could read it in her eyes!

…granted, I could see the reflection of nanna’s cards in her cataracts, but, still, I’m pretty damned proud of myself. No gummy bears for you nanna!

Sort of related in that it involves my local casino, but I just got an email from them that they’re offering picnics to go. :confused:

Looks like you pulled the lever on this poker OP and it landed on snake eyes!