Any update on the suit? I would hope the courts would punish PETA for their idiocy. Surely they should be required to pay Sea World’s legal fees.
Not in America, Jack. Absent a statute to the contrary (none of which will apply here), everyone pays their own legal fees. PETA will be required to pay Sea World’s costs once the suit is dismissed, but unless PETA and/or its attorneys know the suit is frivolous (they probably do, but it’s really hard to prove) they won’t be paying Sea World’s attorneys’ fees.
This is the first I’d ever heard of this. What is the level of chlorination?
(I’ve been in the front row at the Shamu show at Sea World, and have been thoroughly doused with water from the tank, and, far as I could tell, it tasted more like sea-water than like swimming-pool water. But I obviously didn’t have the lab equipment with me to detect or measure chlorine levels.)
Trinopus
Maybe. But it’s our choice. It’s not theirs.
Pets are enslaved animals. There’s no denying it. The issue is whether enslavement of vanity pets by humans is an acceptable practice or not.
Your choice.
No living thing chooses to be enslaved and prescribe their life to the command and subservience to a human.
aren’t there more important things in the world than saving a couple of fucking baby orcas? why doesn’t peta donate their considerable funds to saving children in africa or helping the deaf or people that **actually need help **instead of crusading to protect animals who dont give a fuck that no one gives a fuck about? i’m sorry, but there are more important things in the world.
If those things you mentioned, like saving children in Africa, were considered important in our society, then the billions of $$ (with a “B”) paid every year in routine and advanced medical care for vanity pet animals should also be spent to alleviate suffering for the children of Africa, instead of supporting a multi-Billion $$ industry whose only purpose is is to gratify human egos of people who want to dominate other living things and keep them enslaved for their ego gratification.
You know, try as I have I have never gotten my dog to get off her lazy bum to pick cotton, or even the newspaper. She won’t even bark at suspicious strangers, though she’s very cliché about hating the mailman with a fierceness. All she ever does is knock fragile things over, raid the fridge and get her cute on for tummy rubs afterwards.
Worst. Slave. Ever.
Well, your pet didn’t choose to live dependent on you and your command.
Humans have the ability to exploit other living things in any way they can. Owning pets is one of them.
Just an aside, to put this in a political context (my fav), that’s what Libertarianism is all about – living beings should be allowed to enslave, and it’s the choice of the enslaved to fulfill that demand and be subservient to the enslavers – even to other species.
Pet ownership is defining animals as objects and property to humans. That much is obvious. The question is whether it should be socially acceptable.
If pets are “enslaved,” then so are human children. I mean, making them do chores, wash the dishes, fold clothes from the dryer, without any choice in the matter, and no pay, and nowhere they can go… Slavery, I tell ya…
Trinopus
Fine.
Make children and let them out your house any time you want, even before they leave the hospital when newborn.
Our dog is allowed outside. Not that there’s really any allowing to it, because that dog just don’t give a fuck. Not a single one, not ever. She’s even figured door handles out, so she can (and does) go in and out as she pleases. The yard has no fence, no wire, no nothing. She could scarper any time she pleases. And considering the number of revolting things she’s brought back from such escapades, she doesn’t have any problem finding stuff to munch on by herself. She ain’t dependant on squat.
But of course, right here there’s food, cushions, cuddles, central heating, cats to chase, the odd stolen wheel of cheese, no work, no violence, no disease, no pain, no stress and no fear. Except for thunderstorms, those freak her right out. Also vacuum cleaners for some reason. But besides that, it’s a pretty groovy life being a “slave”. *I *wouldn’t mind it.
Life in the wilds ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. It’s brutal, it’s unforgiving, and it’s short.
See?
The “Our” and the “allowed” makes my point, doesn’t it?
My dog is my dog the exact same way my friends are my friends. Do I own my friends ? Cause if so I think I got scammed for some of them 
Really?
Your friends depend on you to feed them and give them shelter?
I didn’t think so.
Pets are slaves. Just admit it.
I already told you my dog doesn’t depend on shit. I’d wager few dogs or cats ever do, really. Then you got all hung up on the grammar, and I showed you the grammar don’t mean as much as you’d like it to.
And you know, now that I think about it, my SO does depend on me for food and shelter. She ain’t my slave either.
“Pets are slaves” is a ridiculous, shrill exaggeration of a sentence that either grossly misrepresents the life of the average dog, or grossly understates the plight of the average slave. Just admit it.
I admit that I misused the term “slave” when most people would rather apply it to human mistreatment against other humans, rather than human mistreatment against other living things.
You already know your dog is subservient to you because that’s how he can survive. That’s goes for all pet owners, not just you.
If an animal had a choice to live on its own or to be subject to a human’s ownership, then, at least, give humans the decent benefit of a doubt and acknowledge that enslaving an animal would not be what the animal would have chosen for their own existence.
That much is true and irrefutable.
If I could swap my life with my dog’s, I would in a New York minute. Not a care in the world, man. Plus I’d get to lick my own balls. I’d never leave the house.
Pathetic attempt for a humorless analogy aside, the animal is still subjected to a human’s imposed compulsory possession.
Cats are evil. That much is true and irrefutable. (I’ll spare the board from posting this 8-12 times, under the theory that repetition conveys truth.)
Feral cats live much briefer lives than pet cats. In fact, animals in captivity tend to live longer than those in the wild. Aversion to hunger and predation is a pretty fundamental drive: it’s not surprisingly that dogs and cats don’t flee their …owners. I’m not so sure about caged birds.