Pew Poll: 44 Percent of Liberal Democrats Say Churches Bad for America

I went to college in the early '70s, when the SDS was quite popular. More political now? Please, you crack me up.

The OP thinks this is bad for America simply because his personal worldview is not accepted by more people. Well I’ll tell ya, Christianity is a false religion, and the more people understand this, it can only be a good thing for the country.

I do believe the country as a whole would be better if us citizens followed the moral laws that Almighty God laid out in the New Testament, yes.

I go to a Baptist church, and while any random person off the street does not have an obligation to agree with my church’s conservative (and, in my opinion, correct) views on abortion, same-sex marriage, and other issues, I would obviously prefer it if they did.

Yes, it is important for there to be a separation of church and state. But the wall between the two should not be made of fucking titanium.

I tend not to give much credence to fictional characters myself.

How about 32’ of solid neutronium? And about 97.4 km high. Until “Christians” start acting like Christ I want them kept as far from me and my country as possible.

The Bible is not, in fact,
in favor of abortion.

At all.

But hey, what do you liberals care about facts.

We care a lot about facts, which is why a lot of us don’t accept the fiction of Jesus or any other of that crap.

How about you get me a mainstream academic source from a professional who specializes in the field instead a link to damn apologetics website.

Absolutely it should be an electrified, 50 ft thick chobham armored wall.

I don’t know what this means. Can you explain?

In a different vein, do you think atheists should be allowed to serve in government, like as elected officials, appointed officers, or judges?

Yes, I do, but it’s highly unlikely I would vote for them given they would be unlikely to share my views, and might pursue an anti-theist agenda.

Anti-theist is not the same as atheist.

So what did you mean that the wall between church and state shouldn’t be fucking titanium? Like, some examples where you think the wall should be lower might be helpful.

Don’t you ever think it possible that those church teachings (and your opinion, since you bring it up) can sometimes be in conflict with Jesus’ teachings about loving and respecting your fellow humans, and being humble before God? All that gay-bashing and misogyny and racism and minister-enriching at which your denomination is often at the forefront often looks pretty damn un-Christian, you know.

The finest, most honorable religious people, Christian and otherwise, that I know don’t go to church at all. They *live *it.

Are you denying that the majority of atheists also appear to be anti-theists as well, particularly most of the public spokesmen of the New Atheist movement, like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and PZ Myers.

Hell, Harris has outright said he wants to use science to destroy religion. A militant atheist fanatic, he most certainly is.

It should be made of bricks, that are not impenetrable.

As Joe Lieberman once said, “freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.”

We must dedicate our nation to God’s purpose. :cool:

Why? And who made you the arbitrator of “God’s purpose”? Are you the Pope?
(Once upon a time, it was feared that JFK would put the US under Vatican rule. How things have changed!)

Look, I’m trying to understand your point, but I feel like you’re talking in riddles. Bricks not titanium? Separation of church and state but dedicate our government to God? The First Amendment doesn’t protect atheism?

I don’t know what you’re saying, so again, could you give some examples of where the wall between the two should be lowered?

The militant fanatics are always the loudest in any group of people, even if their extreme views aren’t shared by the group. But anyway, antitheism isn’t trying to take your precious fairy tales away from you. Just to get them out of public policy.

Why must we?
What is God’s purpose?"
Which God?
Why that God and not any of the others?
How is it that you get to decide this for the rest of us?