Philly Cheesesteaks: help me make 'em

I want to surprise my SO, a south Philly native, with a real, homemade Philly cheesesteak. I know, he shouldn’t eat that, because of his cholesterol and all that… You only live once, though. I want to make him a special dinner of his very favorite food, just because he’s so nice to me. And price is not a concern.

He introduced me to the wonder that is the cheesesteak when I moved out here. Back in the Midwest, where I grew up, some restaurants offered something by that name, and it was just sliced, grilled beef, topped with grilled onions and green peppers (sometimes mushrooms too) and some bland, white cheese. On a squishy white bun, much like Wonder bread. Now, I order them with lettuce, mayo and perhaps fried onions. At least once a week, and almost every day when I was pregnant.

Goodness. I’m addicted. We tried to go to both Pat’s and Geno’s in Philly a few months ago, on my birthday, but it was too cold for us to keep the kids out that long. We were determined to compare those two, because apparently, those are the original cheesesteaks. (Plus, my SO’s dad told us that Pat’s changed theirs, and they’re not as good now. We’ve already scheduled another trip up to Philly, because the question is almost keeping us awake at night. Pat’s, or Geno’s…)

So what do I need to buy to make this? What kind of meat? What kind of cheese? What are the best rolls? And how do I cook the meat? And when do I add the cheese?

(He likes lettuce, mayo and sometimes ketchup on his. No onions, ever, because of horrible heartburn. But I’d still like to know how to cook the onions, too, because I like them sometimes.)

Mayo? Mayo?!?!?!?!

:eek:

Move to Philly.

This was discussed on the board a few months back; you may want to search for the thread for better recommendations. But everyone agreed you want ribeye steak sliced paper-thin, and authentic cheeses seem to include white American, provolone, and (if you’re into that sort of thing), Cheez Whiz. The rolls they use in Philly are Amoroso’s rolls, which may not be available where you are (I know I’ve never seen them sold in Florida). From the descriptions, they sounded like harder, crustier rolls, rather than spongy and soft.

I’m not a Philly native, but I’ve visited there and took special notice of the steaks at two of the Big Three cheesesteak places (Pat’s and Jim’s–I skipped out on Geno’s) Pat’s uses ribeye, and Jim’s uses top round IIRC. I prefer the ribeye. Go to your meat counter or butcher’s and ask him to slice the ribeye as thinly as possible. If you have a meat slicer at home, get a whole chunk of ribeye, and partically freeze it, and slice it thinly yourself. You can slice a partially frozen slab of meat far thinner than a fresh slab.

There is no secret beyond this. When I make 'em at home (and they taste very similar to what I had in Philly, although I can’t find quite the right bread for it), I simply fry the meat for a few minutes, fry some onions on the side or in another pan, and serve them together on an Italian loaf with Cheez Whiz (or provolone).

No peppers!

Someone page Airman Doors to this thread! (I had one of his at a Dopefest. Oh my god-culinary HEAVEN).

Cheez Whiz? That just can’t be right. I’d heard rumors, but I thought they were just making fun of my ignorance. No kidding… Cheez Whiz. Hmm. I was guessing Swiss or provolone, but the ones I’ve had didn’t really taste like either.

twickster: Yeah, I thought mayo was kind of weird, too. It’s actually pretty good, and I don’t even like mayo. Last Christmas, I heard my SO’s brother-in-law order one, and he wanted everything under the sun on it – banana peppers, jalapenos, mushrooms, ketchup, mustard, pickles, mayo, lettuce, onions, etc. I nearly gagged when I saw it.

Amen. He could go to work at Pat’s in a heartbeat.

Pat’s Original Recipe. The two places in San Francisco use Amoroso’s rolls for the “Italian Rolls”. Original recipe and many people who claim to know the “secret” say to use Cheeze Whiz. I prefer white American… it doesn’t have the plastic taste. And, quite frankly, provolone is nowhere close to satisfactory :wink:

Well, it’s not canonical, but I’ve got the White Dog Cafe cookbook (the White Dog Cafe is in Philadelphia, so it’s OK), and I’ve made their cheesesteaks, and they were incredible. So here you go.

I’ll be damned, the Cheez Whiz is authentic. I really thought people were just making fun of me when they told me that.

Thanks for the links. I’ll test run a couple, to make sure it’s what he loves, like the ones we get at his dad’s place in Philly (I think they’re from Jim’s). I thought it was going to be far more work than that.

And yeah, I’ve read before that Airman Doors makes the best cheesesteaks ever, so I’d love his input, if anyone cares to direct him over to this thread.