Phone Rage At "Extended Auto Warranty" Scammer

Yes, calling someone who has not invited you to do so is an invasion of privacy. If you call someone on business, and they’re on the DNC list, it’s also illegal.

I’ve worked as a telemarketer, for a couple of weeks, over 30 years ago. I still feel slimy from doing it. I’d really rather deal illegal drugs, as I’d be providing a quality product, and only to those who sought it out. Or possibly I’d resort to selling my body rather than do telemarketing again.

I will hold it against the guy or gal on the phone. They might have been innocent when they took the job. But when they learn to hang up on people who tell them that they (the people who have been called) are on the DNC list, when they tell people that they will put them on the Do Not Care list, they are no longer innocent, and are willing participants to one of the slimiest industries out there.

…and every telemarketer does that stuff? Hardly.

As in any industry, there are douchebags and there are people who are just doing their jobs. I met an honest used car salesman one time.

Right, because you can’t ask to speak to a supervisor or anything, like you’d do in a store. :rolleyes:

Yup. I lasted all of three weeks, I think - not because I felt bad about doing the job (I was selling perfectly good AT&T long-distance service) but because 90% of the people I called were complete dicks.

Thank you for revealing your true nature at last. :cool:

By the way, both of my grandmothers – and myself once – got “slammed” by telemarketers like yourself (except it was MCI, not AT&T). Luckily, the financial damage was minimal, but it was a major hassle each time. I don’t know how you people can sleep at night, or how you can act so confident about it, but hey, some people are born to be genuine assholes, ya know? And you know what they say about dicks and assholes – call it the “Laws of Attraction”, if you like. :wink:

Again, just because some telemarketers did something illegal, it doesn’t mean all or even most do.

Lots of dentists molest their patients while they’re sedated. Does that mean all dentists are rapists?

If I’m on the Do not Call list (and I have been since about 1 month after it’s creation) you’re goddamn right you’re violating my privacy, and violating the law, and if I want to be a complete asshole to the guy calling me, it’s my phone and my right to speak into it any way I please.

If you don’t like people screaming at you over the phone, you can choose to hang up and not call them anymore, just like I can choose to avoid doing business with car warranty providers who call me twice a day even though my cars are both 10+ years out of warranty.

This is an “industry” based on douchebaggery. It’s not like being a plumber, where you sometimes have to deal with shit. It’s a whole business model built on one idea – if you call 10000 random strangers at home, one might be stupid, incompetent, or deluded enough to buy whatever piece of shit product you’re selling.

Great for you. Except NO FUCKING PERSON WANTS YOU TO CALL THEM! Not ONE!

I’m glad you got over you telemarketing phase, but during that 3 weeks I would have said the same thing to you: Fuck you for being a telemarketer.

Every. Single. Person who is currently a telemarketer can go straight the fuck to hell. Get a real fucking job where your raison d’etre isn’t to annoy the shit out of people while attempting to rip them off. I’ve got nothing but loathing and disgust for them, their supervisors, and their employers.

Fucking A. Read the thread.

I am not defending telemarketers who break the law. Calling numbers on the DNC registry is illegal. Got it?

Can’t argue with that last bit, though.

I worked in telemarketing for one day. I quit because it did make me feel slimy as Lynn said.

Before I put myself on the do not call list I my phone was constantly ringing with telemarketers. My answering machine would be full of calls from those assholes. So, like Lynn Bodoni, I hold it against the guy on the phone. One of those jackasses actually called me back when I said *“Sorry, not interested.” *and hung up. He was all like *“Hey, I think we may have been disconnected accidentally…” *which sent me into a rage. I started screaming at him **"It was an accident, shit for brains, I hung up on you! **Stop fucking calling me!".

This was as I said before the DNC list. Nowadays I dare one of those jerks to call me. I’ll make it my mission in life to make them miserable. I’ll create a religion just to start a jihad against them.

My father used to pay me a quarter a minute to waste their time.

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I urge everyone not only to get on the donotcall.gov registry but to also bookmark the page so you can immediately report unsolicited calls.

To all of you touting “do not call” lists, I will tell you the same thing I said for years, with greater and greater degrees of frustration during all those years I was an anti-spam crusader: OPT-OUT IS NOT A SOLUTION and NEVER WILL BE.

First of all, who is going to administrate this? Even assuming you can create a massive list of the 99.9% of people who do not wish to be bothered, what agency is going to foot the bill for maintaining and – more importantly – enforcing such a list? Why am I required to engage in effort to remove myself from lists I never asked to be on to begin with? What is to prevent unscrupulous advertisers (that is, all of them) from using the do-not-call list as a convenient list of phone numbers (or email addresses) for spamming?

Furthermore, supposing a list could be created, maintained, and enforced for the United States; what’s to prevent them from calling from Kanada? Will you be forced to remove yourself from an ever-lengthening list of registries stretching from the Cayman Islands to Sealand?

You pay for your phone. You pay for your Internet access. You pay for your domicile’s front door. You allow strangers access to these things in good faith, with the assumption that people who utilize your phone, Internet bandwidth, and front door do so with your desires and needs in mind. These advertisers are like the people who take all the “free samples” in supermarkets and make a meal of them, or piss all over toilet seat in public bathrooms and then take a big shit in the middle of the floor because, hey, they don’t have to clean it. Spammers are stealing from you, no different than if they reached into your pocket and took money from it.

Do police maintain a do-not-rob list? Is there a do-not-rape list where you must enter your personal information if you do not wish to be regarded as perfectly amenable to being raped by strangers on the street? No. The assumption is that people, by default, do not wish to be harmed or stolen from. The ONLY reason that spamming is acceptable right now is that the politicians who made the decision were bought. Openly and blatantly. In the US, the senate committee which was responsible for deciding spam was an honest business practice received sizable contributions from the Direct Marketing Association. This is all on record for anyone who wishes to check for themselves. And during the senate hearings into spamming, the spammers all showed up in expensive three piece suits and shiny black wingtips. The anti-spam advocates showed up in old jeans and Linux t-shirts and (according to the media present) smelled like old cheese.

I have long advocated the use of direct action against spammers. They are sociopaths who do not understand the difference between right and wrong. Indeed, they are physically incapable of being made to understand. They understand one thing only, and that is superior force. If the law will not stop them, then it is our duty, as citizens, to do whatever is needful to MAKE them stop.

I’m not going to defend telemarketers and it is clearly not foolproof, but the Do Not Call list already exists, SmashTheState.

I think this thread would be incomplete without a link to an old SDMB chestnut.

“THE” Do Not Call list? Which one is that? The one in Amerika? In Kanada? In Venezuela? In New Zealand, Lichtenstein, or Laos? In case you somehow missed it, this is not Amerika, this is the Internet. I don’t give a flying fuck at a tumbling bagel what kind of fraudulent and/or ineffectual lists the DMA has kindly consented to. I have already explained why OPT-OUT can NEVER be a viable solution.

I am in New Yorc and most SDMB posters live in the U.S., so I kommented on U.S. list, which is maintained by the Federal Trade Kommission. Based on the konstruktion of your post (“supposing such a list…”) I thought you did not cnow that that there is in fakt a National Do Not Call Registry. It was enakted in 2008.

I agree with you about the flaws of a list maintained by telemarketers on the honor system, and about the problems of opting out, and about the privaky issue.

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Speaking to a telemarketer’s supervisor, assuming that the telemarketer actually does connect me to such a person and doesn’t hang up on me, does absolutely no good at all. Once I ask to speak to a supervisor, 99 times out of 100 I will hear a click. The hundredth time I will be talking to someone who believes, as apparently you do, that since I have a phone I must WANT people to call me during my normal sleeping hours.

I hate to say it, but SmashTheState is completely right, opt-out lists are not the solution for any problem. Anyone wishing to make telemarketing calls, or unsolicited business emails, or anything of this sort, should have to choose targets from opt-in lists. Presumably, people would opt into a list of this sort because they would receive a benefit of some sort.

Lots of restaurants and stores want my email address for their buyer’s rewards programs. I have a couple of eddresses specifically for that sort of thing, and I check them every week or so…and mark most of the email as “spam”, unless it’s something that specifically interests me.

Oh god. This one time this internet fax service tried to send an unsolicited fax to my home phone (not fax) number. At midnight. On a work night. And then after not being able to send it the first time, tried sending it again every 20 minutes for an hour. I ended up turning the ringer off and hoping no one called about a family emergency or something.

Marley23 that was a good link. I also see that donkey cock is used in it.

Last I checked, leaving the store and refusing to patronize it was an option. Also, I would’ve had to go to the store on my own volition, as the store does not come to me.

Can’t really do that with some telemarketers. They will ignore the DNC. They will call again and again and again and autodial and autodial and autodial. All? No. Did I say I treat them all like shit? No.

I just treat all the ones that call me like shit. Because I’m on the DNC. Any telemarketer calling me is already violating the provisions of the DNC, and most definitely deserves whatever they get on the other end of the line.