Pickup Truck Opinions

I was hoping I wouldn’t have to by another car until smart cars were affordable and better than they currently are, but wish in one hand…

Anyway, I am considering getting a pickup truck because it would be more useful than another small civic or similar type car.

I would like to hear any opinions on trucks. A few years ago, I remember hearing Ford Ranger was supposed to be the best. Is that still the case?

I prefer a small economical truck that gets good gas milage and is reliable. No extended cabs or huge monstrosities that seem to have taken over the road these days.

TIA

I’ve driven Nissan pickups since 1978 and have been exceptionally pleased with them. The King-Cab option is nice, because it gives you some room behind the seats for crap. My 2000 Frontier gets 21 mpg combined. If something is going to break on a Nissan, it’s going to break early in its lifetime. If you get past 30,000 miles or so, the suckers are damn-near immortal.

My BIL has a 1997 Nissan that has served him well. I’ve got a '96 Chevy S-10 that has caused little trouble and gets 29 mpg. (Stick shift, 5 speed)

My other truck is a full size '06 Chevy 1500. It gets 20 mpg with an automatic transmission. I own a working farm, so I do have a use for trucks.

29 mpg on a stick? That’s hellagood. :slight_smile:
My '94 Dodge pu has a stick and I can’t top 21 mpg. That’s with 80% of my driving on highways.

I was going to do the “cash for clunker” trade-in but now the program looks dead.

In reply to OP: A full-sized pickup is useful if you are going to use it for work, or have use for a full-size every day. Most people I know (other than contractors) use their full-size PU for things a sedan or even compact could do. I’m like you, I like having a pickup but I don’t want to blow my savings on something I may need once a month. Look at mid-sized vehicles for a good idea of what to buy.

You could go for a used Subaru Baja. It’s a “Cruck.” Half car, half truck. I have one, and love it. Drives like a car, but still has truck capability. All wheel drive, so it handles well in the wet/snow/loose dirt. Gets mid 20 MPG. I can do dump runs, Home Depot runs, and toss a dead animal in the back if I’m lucky in the woods in the fall. If I need a bigger bed, I use my wife’s Nissan Frontier (I don’t like how it handles, so I don’t tend to drive it unless I have to)

Unfortunately, they stopped making them, so you can’t get a new one any more, but there are usually a few in the used market. IMO, they didn’t market it, so they didn’t sell. I didn’t know they existed, until one of my friends said it would be perfect for me. It is.

The wife’s 96 Nissan is going strong with over 200k miles! Never has problems, and is a breeze to maintain. Very well thought design. Decent milage if you drive like a sane person (20+ mpg) and around 16-18 at speeds between 70-80mph. Only complaint is that it is hard to sleep in!

If I was to buy another newish “small” truck, it would most likely be a Nissan.

It is a four-cylinder, very small engine. I bought it for economy when I was traveling high mileage on the job. Yes, one can throw a few tools or a small load of feed in it, but if you need a real TRUCK to pull trailers or haul a load of rock one needs to look elsewhere.
The thing does have over 200k miles on it now. It ain’t pretty but I keep it around to run to town and so forth. Still getting between 29.0 and an occasional 30.5 in the mileage department.

The jury is still out - about 330,000 miles on my 91 Ford Ranger. I bought it new. Think I’ll keep it.

I really like the looks of trucks. Before I bought it, my father (who used to drive semis for a living), said “Make sure you really have the use for it, hauling things and such.”

Back around 1991, kidding myself that I needed to haul things, I finally bought a little Toyota like this:

http://images.fixya.com/T/Toyota/177x150/21652007.jpg

After a brief honeymoon, I hated it.

At the time I think they were levying high tariffs on trucks so it was bare bones, e.g. no carpet, but that was not it. Man, ride in that thing for a couple hours and it left you sore. I hope they’re less stiff now, using advanced technology like shock absorbers or something.

Second, I was amazed how hot it was. With the rear window directly behind the head (and of course through the windshield and driver’s window), the sun seemed to be coming through a magnifying glass. Again, YMMV.

But mostly I didn’t find it user friendly by design. There was some space beyond the seat but anything thicker than an inch wouldn’t fit.

The first time the ex and I went shopping with it, we bought some stuff and put it in the bed. Hey, that big bed puts a trunk to shame! (Note: secure these items before driving off). OK, when we reached the next place, we had to take all that stuff out of the bed and jam it in the cab to prevent the mdse from being stolen. Then upon returning, tranfer it back to the bed. Every time we stopped…:smack:…brought out more purchases…:smack:

Some will say
“That’s why you buy an extended cab!”
“Get organizers for the bed, like maybe a toolbox.”
“You can upgrade the suspension!”
“Put a topper over the bed.”
Etc.

By the time you factor in those extra costs, you probably could buy a car, have seating for four or five, etc.

One thing I learned from the whole experience was that some ppl are probably sedan people, others are van people, and still others may be truck people. Never again.

I have a 1999 Ford Ranger. I’m very happy with it. I’ve used it for local errands and 1,000 mile trips. It gets 23/mpg with an automatic transmission - probably because it’s a 2-wheel drive, not a 4-wheel drive. I occasionally use it for light hauling for my current employment. We did buy a bedliner for it, that’s the only upgrade.

My recommendation is don’t buy more truck than you need. Don’t buy a 4-wheel drive if you don’t need it. Don’t buy an extended cab unless you need it. And so on. But you already know that.

I’d give almost anything to have my customized 1948 Ford back again.

Nissan Pathfinder for myself. '06 It’s built on the running gear and frame of the Frontier truck. 52,000 miles so far. I have change the oil and put gas in it. It goes into 4x4 every day 6 months out of the year. And drives over an 11,500 foot pass. Twice every day.

Oh, I have put some new wiper blades and tires on it. And done the scheduled maint. It’s not garaged, and I beat on it a bit with gravel roads and such and pulling other vehicles out of the ditch, but it’s like brand new.

My previous 1993 Pathfinder found 230,00 miles before I traded it in. It was still going strong with no problems.

The main problem with the Ranger is that the basic design hasn’t really changed since the mid 80s. It’s been updated but the technology is really old.

Since you mentioned the Civic, what about the Honda Ridgeline? It’s car-based instead of truck based, so it’s supposed to have a car-like ride. It’s not huge, either.

True, but in return you get a truck that is really easy to work on.

I ended up going with a Ranger 2007 Ranger extended cab for my personal vehicle last time I went looking. I’m very happy with it.

When comparing the smaller trucks to their larger brothers you will find they are not always much more fuel efficient. Keep in mind why your looking for a smaller truck. I know a few guys who went with rangers and Tacoma’s who have regretted not getting something more like a F-150 do to carrying capacity.

As I have access to larger trucks from business options so it wasn’t important for my personal vehicle.

When I was shopping for a truck I wanted something I’d be comfortable driving and parking around Boston but still have the utility of a pick up.

I mainly looked at Ranger’s Tacoma’s and Colorado’s.

The Ranger’s haven’t changed much in a long time. When it comes to new technology they lose out a bit but there design has been more fine tuned from this time and they have a very solid reliability. The competitors models have grown larger over time while the Ranger has retained its size. At 6’1" I found the baseline models to be a bit cramped because the seat could not go back enough. The extended cabs where fine. The interior is quite comfortable. Mine is a 2007 sport edition, the trim option makes it look a lot sharper then other Ranger’s. The cost of purchasing and operating the Rangers is what made my final decision over the Tacoma’s

The Tacoma’s were nice I have no complaints about the ones I test drove. Comfortable enough(again with an extended cab) The main reason for not seriously considering one was the price point. The are considerably more expensive then Ranger’s and to me did not offer enough to justify the price difference.

I hated everything about the Colorado’s and found them incredible uncomfortable to drive. Whoever was responsible for the ergonomics failed horribly. Driving they felt larger and unwieldy. Chevy should have stuck with the S-10’s.

Thats why I’ll never give up my 65 F250 Longbed away. Not for love or money.

I had this truck. I loved it. It was small, good on gas, and never broke down. Great for hauling bikes, surfboards, whatever. I drove it from 90 til summer of 07, at which time the strut under the cab finally went and it was irreparable. If I’d done more to maintain it in the Newfoundland weather, I’d likely have it now. Great truck. I’d buy a toyota again in a heartbeat.

My brother has a good truck situation. He has an extended cab american truck, with a mini rear bench seat, and a shortish bed. He’s put a steel frame on the back, so you can keep big stuff in it, or put stuff on top of it. Cleverly, the frame is hinged over the rear gate, so you can put things that are taller than the frame in the bed.

My ex-fiancée has a '99 Toyota Tacoma that she bought new. After ten years the starter went out and needed to be replaced (last week). I talked to her a couple of days ago, and she said she still loves it. She reports 25 mpg.

Hers is a 4-cylinder, 5-speed manual transmission with the extended cab. (Not the full-sized Crew Cab, but the half-sized extended one.) My dad had a '74 Toyota Hi-Lux, which was the ancestor of the Tacoma. His was a 4-speed with the regular short cab. Having driven dad’s truck as a teen, and having ridden in my friend’s Tacoma, I recommend the extended cab. Plenty of room for groceries, and dry in the wet Pacific Northwest.

About the 4-cylinder engine. If you’re not carrying a half-ton of cargo and/or towing a heavy trailer, it should be fine. Dad hauled two Enduros on a trailer back in the '70s, and the Hi-Lux performed well enough except on steep hills. Revs were a bit high on the freeway, but then it only had a 4-speed transmission. A new Tacoma with the 5-speed should cruise all right. I will say this: A former coworker bought a Jeep Wrangler with a four-banger. I have a Cherokee with a six. I get better mileage in the XJ than he did in his YJ (or TJ – I forget which) because he was thrashing his engine on the freeway while I was just loafing. When I was looking into getting a Tacoma I think the six- and four-cylinder models had comparable EPA ratings. I don’t remember, but it’s easy enough to check. Again, my friend says she gets 25 mpg in her '99 Tacoma four-banger.

A few years ago, I remember hearing that the Ranger had spectacularly bad crash test ratings. Is that still the case?

That being said, my dad bought a Ranger after he retired–he had been a carpenter, and used a full-size pickup for hauling tools and materials, so after retirement he still wanted a truck but didn’t need to carry so much. I’ve driven it a few times, once for a couple hundred miles, and I thought it was fine. If I were looking for a small pickup, it’d be on my list of models to investigate.

Well, don’t roll it over - the roof isn’t particularly strong and there is a risk of it crushing into the cab if the vehicle winds up wrong side up.