From here: Death-jab dog 'on killing rampage'
I can sorta see why stories of “locking jaws” would come about
I am quite curious as the whether the distressed owner is upset because of the mayhem his dog has caused or the fact his dog was killed.
Well if it was my dog I’d be upset about both. First that I’d lost control of the dog and second that it cost it’s life. Luckily my dog is not physically capable of such acts, though he’d like to think he is.
My boss has a 9 month old Pit Bull (rejected by his mother and thus bottle fed from about a week old) who frightens me a bit, not because he’s so aggressive but because of the harm he is capable of inflicting.
I’ve walked into work and heard an ominous GRRRRRRRRR until the dog gets close enough to me to recognize me.
I really don’t want to imagine what this dog could do to anyone he doesn’t know; he’s already over 80 lbs, and his attitude towards his owner and his family is nothing but loving, but he isn’t obedience trained and he’s proved several times that he’s quite capable of dragging my boss by the lead. Literally.
I know that lots pit bull owners swear their pets are nurture over nature, and I would like to believe that every dog is harmless until proven otherwise, but I don’t really understand why anybody would want to take the risk.
Did you miss this part:
Mongrel things.
Are you sure it’s actually a pit bull? 'Cause that’s awfully large for a nine-month-old pit bull.
You just choke their windpipe until they run out of air and let go. Not difficult. I’ve done it many times to make bull terriers let go of something they wanted to hang on to.
Right, an adult male pit bull should not exceed 65 pounds (60 pounds if you use the smaller of the two major breed standards.) Saying one has seen a baby pit bull that’s 80 pounds just shows how bad people are at identifying pit bulls or estimating weight.
Also, failing to obedience train any 80-pound dog (any dog, frankly) is dangerous.
Also, pit bulls typically have a distinct lack of human aggression – they are less likely to growl at strangers than any of the guarding breeds, for example. A “pit bull” that growls at at approaching strangers in normal circumstances is way unusual and intolerable (of course there’s considerable doubt that the dog Audrey Levins describes, which does not act like a pit bull and is far larger than any recognized pit bull, is a pit bull at all.)
In answer to the question at hand, a black person killed someone this week. Horrifyingly, that’s not the first time a black person has killed someone. I know that lots of scientists swear black people are “nurture over nature,” and I would like to believe that black person is harmless until proven otherwise, but I don’t really understand why anybody would want to take the risk of having them in our communities.
That’s all this is. Other dogs kill people too; only a tiny proportion of deaths overall come from dogs; but the news warns us about those alarming ones that are different from us, just like the news used to warn us about a “black suspect seen in the vicinity.”
Oh god its another pit bull thread… were we go again
Gah. Dogs need to be trained. I don’t care if it’s Tinkerbell the Chihuahua or Spike the 150 pound German shepherd (do shepherds get that big?), dogs need to be trained. Dogs are much, much happier if they know and accept their place in the pack, and the humans are safer.
One of the reasons the Bodoni family doesn’t have a dog right now is that I don’t feel inclined to train a dog (I like dogs, but I’m more of a cat person, and I’m somewhat allergic to dogs), and my husband won’t make the time commitment. It’s not fair to us, not fair to the hypothetical dog, and not fair to anyone the dog might interact with to get a dog and then not train it.
My ex-niece in law raises Jack Russell terriers, which are charming little dogs but they are very active. She trains them to respond to various commands from the time they’re very young pups. One of the commands is “DROP”, which means that the dog is to drop whatever is in its mouth. Another command tells the dog to disengage from fighting, whether it’s another dog or a human. If the dog in the story had had some sort of training, it might very well be alive today.
I’ll keep that in mind, in case something like that happens to me. As a pet owner, though, my viewpoint is different. A dog that I have to periodically strangle is not one I want to keep.
I agree with the other posters that this is an awfully big pit bull. If this dog is at work then maybe some frank discussions should occur with your boss. I’m not a lawyer but he’s probably liable for the dog separate from his corporation. Something for him to check into.
I hate to say this, but if the dog lunges for you then feed it your non-dominant arm so it has something other than your face/throat to latch onto. I’ll assume there will be people in the office to help you at this point. You can google dog attacks to see what they are capable of. When the dog growls I would act like it’s owner and say it’s name in a stern voice.
You know, the further back in the mouth your hand is, the less damage they can do. If you put your arm across its back molars, it can’t bite down. If you put your hand in it’s mouth (deeply) and make a fist, it’s like you trying to chew and entire chicken.
Just a few ideas.
I’ve got an awesome picture of an x-ray taken when a pitty owner stabbed his own dog to get him to let go.
Owner was cutting a sandwich on the kitchen counter, dog decided he wanted the sandwich. Dog jumped up to grab the sandwich, owner moved his arm sideways to deflect the dog, dog latched on to arm. Owner stabbed dog with 8-inch chef’s knife he was using to cut sandwich.
The dog walked into the emergency room with the knife sticking out of his back.
Amazing x-ray ensued.
Humane euthanasia followed.
It sucked.
Not to be insensitive, but why? There’s a big knife sticking out of a dog; what more information did they need?
You never know whether major organs are lacerated or not. Though the handle was large, you can’t go by the owner’s description, especially when they’re traumatized. So x-ray to make sure of the size of the blade and where in the body cavity it actually ended up. How much damage it caused depended on where it really was, you can’t tell from the handle whether it pierced a lung, lacerated the liver, or possibly just went through the stomach (which might have been repairable). The extent of trauma determined whether we might consider an attempt to surgically remove the knife.
Pit bulls don’t kill people, their bionic lockjaws kill people.