Pit Bulls (continued)

Perhaps you could explain to me which word or words I’ve used that you think I haven’t properly comprehended.

Why should severely restricting the breeding of pitbulls (and crossing of them with other breeds to create all sorts of Frankenstein’s monsters) be a burden or a pain? It’s just a control problem: nobody is suggesting ripping your sweet little bundle of joy out of your loving arms and shootin’ them in the head fer’ chrissakes. Well, I would actually, so lucky I’m not a lawmaker. :smiley:

Make registered breeders go through hoops to get licenses, and every time a pit or pit cross comes into a shelter (without microchipping etc) have it put down. The value of the dog will become prohibitive for all but the most die-hard nutters, and the crazy cross-breeds will be off the streets within a few generations. If that’s too much of a ‘pain’ for you, then maybe you’re not committed enough to own a pibble. See?

Tell that to Ayen Chol’s family. For those of you who can’t be arsed clicking on the link, (it’s the one I provided previously) a little four year old girl was in her own house when a neighbour’s dog rushed in, attacked two adults and mauled the littlie to death.

Sense of entitlement? Good god, you’re a stupid woman. That child had an entitlement to live safely. I’d go so far as to say you’re fucking evil, but it’s January 1st here now, and I’m feeling all forgiving and magnanimous and stuff.

Happy New Year everyone: how many people are going to die in 2014 because stupid entitled pitbull owners refuse to acknowledge the truth?

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If you were telling the truth, that would be one thing. You aren’t.

In every case, a human being was irresponsible or negligent in some way, the same way gun deaths are attributable to human beings being irresponsible. I don’t see you advocating for destroying all guns the moment they’re made to eliminate the “thing” that’s causing so many tragic deaths, like the one where a 5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shot his 2-year-old sister, or the one where a 5-year-old was fatally shot in the head by his brother, or the 3-year-old who fatally shot himself with his uncle’s gun … you get the picture.

In fact, the incidence of children killed by guns in the U.S. has risen 60 percent in 10 years!

The incidence of a “pit bull type dog” escaping one house, entering another house, and killing a 5-year-old is exactly ONE.

So, sorry, but the answer still isn’t banning a breed that doesn’t exist. The answer, which has a proven model in place in Calgary, is DOG-SPECIFIC bylaws.

Happy New Year. Hopefully next year you’ll be a little better informed than you are this year.

That is precisely what I just did! :eek: integrity

Yeah, I noticed your ‘experts’ cite was from a site called ‘fight ontario ban’. No bias there!

Again, for those who keep advocating destroying all “pit bulls,” I ask, WHAT’S A PIT BULL?

There is no such breed. There are many, many breeds that are close in appearance that are frequently mistaken for “pit bull type dogs,” and several different breeds that fall into this category. Not to mention mixed breeds that look like a bull dog or a boxer or an American Pit Bull Terrier, but aren’t pure-bred anything. So where do you start the banning or the killing? Which dogs get it first?

I know what integrity means. What did you think I thought it meant ?

Are you fucking kidding me? They cited WHO the expert was, who is CLEARLY a qualified EXPERT, and the alternative they are recommending, which is the Calgary method, which I also quoted above.

You can’t even read for comprehension so why the FUCK would I trust YOUR opinion on which dogs to ban or destroy.

Now go fuck off and have a happy new year.

What Shayna said. X10.

In a 2minute minute google search I found these incidents of trees killing people! Should we ban pine trees because they are responsible for the most deaths or should we limit trees to no more than 8 feet in height. Statistically I think its more likely you’ll be killed by a falling tree than any breed of dog. Why do we let this menace continue. I’m sure I can find a story of a 5 year killed by a tree to pull at your heart strings!

62 Workers in the logging industry died last year in tree related deaths, these are supposed experts!

149 people have died to falling trees this year! Clearly this is a more pressing problem.

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/051606/met_falling.shtml

Personally I’m afraid my neighbor might recklessly grow a tree that falls down and kills me. I think he should be banned from owning one.

I have no idea what you thought it meant, since the way you used it made no sense. There was and is no lack of integrity in Shayna’s arguments to begin with, but if there were, it would not be indicated by her assessment of your belief that the reason for a perceived change in behavior of kids around dogs is due to a greater number of bully breed dogs in the world.

Which leads me to conclude that you don’t understand what integrity means.

What an absolutely flatulent thing to say–I’m a sissy because I deplore humAns being killed and scarred and maimed by animals you have an irrational and illogical love for. You prefer dogs to people…

Indeed! This is the fundamental poverty of the arguments made against pit bulls; almost anything that kills at all kills more people per year than pit bulls do, starting with parents! If we’re going to control anything in the hopes of keeping children safe, we should begin with controlling who breeds human beings, forget breeding dogs.

There is good reason for that! I’m a hell of a lot more likely to be killed by a person than a dog. Lets ban people! Maybe just ban the breed of them that is responsible for the most homicides?

You don’t deplore human beings being killed. You deplore having to deal with your own irrational and illogical fear of things which are not part of your life, so you want to control other people’s lives to serve yourself.

Ah, you like the Calgary method do you?

A reduction in dog bites is nice, BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE !

Here in Calgary, this past August, two pits provide the familiar scenario of a pitbull attack on another “nice” dog and the heroic efforts required to get them to release.

Yea, that bylaw is an enormous success :dubious:

Just not in my back yard heh ?

One ‘expert’. One. And who says she’s an expert? What training has she had? What’s her background?

That’s your ‘expert’.

And go fuck off yourself. Have a *safe *new year with your land shark.

So why are you defending them? You call your own dogs ‘pibbles’…are they or aren’t they pit bull type dogs?

I don’t get into gun control pissing matches on this board because I happen to live in Australia, and it’s as futile as arguing with people like yourself w/re dogs. I quite appreciate having strict gun control measures here, and would personally like them to be stricter still, but again, that’s just me I guess.

Anyway, I’m going to enjoy my New Years Day, and hereby bowing out of this thread. It’s a pointless waste of time. I know Stoid has always had a reputation for being a nutter of all sorts of flavours, but you Shayna…I seriously would have expected a more level-headed approach.

Seems I was wrong.

Might be able to answer the question if you could define ‘pit bull type dogs’