She had clothes on. Not strange at all.
From someone who just admitted (and even apologized for) letting 2 leashed pit bulls escape her control, I will not even offer further response. Just because the other guy with a mixed mutt that acted aggressively - but note - did not escape his control - 2 wrongs do not equal 1 right.
PS looks like your land sharks wouldn’t have passed the ATTS test.
From the report:
"when I passed I slowed down. The dog then positioned itself in front of me. I was as far right as I could go (there was a wall to my right). So I stopped. The dog then jumped on my chest and knocked me down. I INITIALLY FELL ON MY RIGHT KNEE on the sidewalk and PUT MY RIGHT FOREARM IN FRONT OF MY FACE. I THEN FELL ON MY BACK AND THE DOG HAD MY RIGHT FOREARM ( cut off due to page break on AC report copier)…and pulling me backwards towards the grass.
AT THIS POINT ME AND THE WOMAN WITH THE DOG were screaming and SHE WAS PULLING BACK ON THE LEASH…THE DOG LET GO AFTER A WHILE.
(blame the victim, nutters…blame the victim.)
I hope you aren’t standing by for actual answers because they don’t seem interested in providing them.
I’m still more likely to be killed by a falling tree on a city street than I am by any breed of dog. I think we should take action against trees over 8 feet long before we take away people’s pets.
I, for one, appreciate the OP’s efforts in this thread. I don’t know why so many people are so aggressively resistant to the arguments being made. The debate over the danger of pitbulls is really absurd. They were created to fight and kill. Dogs are particularly good examples of the influence of instinct. Result? Lots of horrific attacks. The apologists with their bullshit excuses are perfect examples of the type of person this kind of dog appeals to. I think a lot of them get some kind of thrill out of living with a dangerous entity the same way lion and bear guys do.
I personally witnessed my cousin’s pitbull leap up and attack a passing toddler while on a beach camping trip. The dog grabbed the child’s head and began the mad shake while people scrambled to stop it. Fortunately, the child was wearing a coat with a thick hood up. This was an unprovoked attack. The pitbull was merely responding to its companion, which was an equally unpleasant bulldog that had snapped at the kid out of pure ill temper. Attack instinct.
More recently, the first love of my life had the end of her nose bitten off and her cheek torn open across her entire face by a friend’s pitbull that she was cuddling. Apparently, it got startled by someone across the room. Fucking attack instinct.
There’s no excuse for continuing to create these things and the darling of the white trash community should be allowed to die out.
yeah…I get that - in spite of having a pet dog (who is sometimes perceived as a pit bull! and I have no doubt, would definitely be identified as such in the unlikely event that he should ever turn on me!), I am more likely to lose sleep over the two gigantic trees in my backyard everytime there’s a windstorm! and I hear those branches slapping against my house :eek:
Pitbulls are terriers first, and unlike the work, hunting and toy breeds were bred to kill, particularly rats. Scale up a terrier’s size, muscle mass and jaw strength and you have the pitbull. Its like putting an 8 cylinder diesel engine into a go cart.
Wrong again, bucko. He DID let his dog out of his control.
Which is WHY he didn’t hold me responsible.
Since HE was there and YOU were not, I think HE IS A BETTER ARBITER OF WHOSE FAULT IT WAS, AND HE ACCEPTED FULL RESPONSIBILITY.
REPOSTING BECAUSE I MISSED THE EDIT WINDOW AND I HAVE MORE I WANTED TO SAY:
He DID let his dog out of his control. As I said in that very post, HE LET GO OF HIS DOG. All three dogs ended up in a whirl on the other side of the path from where both of us were.
And I take serious issue with your contention that I “let” those dogs escape my control. He LET his dog loose, I did my damnedest to hold onto mine. There was no LET there. Period.
Which is WHY he didn’t hold me responsible.
Since HE was there and YOU were not, I think HE IS A BETTER ARBITER OF WHOSE FAULT IT WAS, AND HE ACCEPTED FULL RESPONSIBILITY AND APOLOGIZED PROFUSELY FOR HIS DOG SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF MINE.
As you seem to be in the camp it’s a mental attribute of the dogs how would banning dogs that look like they are ‘pit bulls’ be a solution to the problem? Shouldn’t a dog that appears to be a golden retriever but has ‘pit bull’ in it’s heritage be equally dangerous? As noted in this thread dachshunds and jack russells are some of the more aggressive breeds ‘breed to attack’ shouldn’t a dachshund/saint bernard be a greater concern than a ‘pit’
If your goal is to ban a breed how should breed be determined?
Since your throwing your hat in with the likes of cougar58 do you also advocate for poisoning dogs that appear to be pit bulls? Hit him up he’ll let you know just how.
An argument that pit bulls are a threat that requires legislation is really absurd. Non breed specific legislation has proven more successful in decreasing the number of dog related injuries and doesn’t leave people wondering if the state is going to euthanize their pet because someone with no expertise deemed it to be a ‘pit mix’
Attacks are still incredibly rare. Why not go after greater threats like tall trees first? Those things are deadly!
None of which means “a pit bull bit clear thru to the bone” without you assuming facts not in evidence. Again.
What do you expect when the victim continually embellishes her story? Which, by the way, she now claims had an elapsed time of about five seconds.
“On her person” includes clothing.
What you stated, verbatim :
All of a sudden his dog LUNGED across the path at my dogs, and even though he had one of those leashes that you can lock the mechanism to prevent it from pulling out any more length, which kept his dog from getting all the way across,
my dogs responded by standing up from their seated position and lurching across the path at his dog. They pulled so hard and so fast that they damn near gave me rope burns in my palms from trying to hold onto their leashes and they got away from me and went after his dog.
(Your pit bulls broke free first. Anything after that is self defense.)
He then let his dog’s leash go and all of a sudden we had a three-dog melee in the middle of the path.
(Only after yours first broke free from you )
I tried to break them up and ended up on my back in the ivy. Duke left the tumble and came back to me when I called out to him, and Lola gave up a long few seconds after that. Someone helped me up, I took the two dogs, and hurried their asses down the path to get them to the car as quickly as possible, while the other guy went off in the opposite direction (the directions each of us had been headed in the first place).
A good minute or two later, here comes the man running my direction now, SCREAMING at me that my dog had put a hole in his dog and what did I intend to do about it. He totally blamed me because his precious dog hadn’t been able to make it all the way over to my dogs, so it must have been my fault since he stopped his dog but I couldn’t stop mine.
Fine. I’ll take my share of the blame since the dogs did get away from me, so give me the name of your vet and I’ll pay whatever the bill comes to, just stop yelling at me.
And I’d just like to make clear that that incident was what prompted me to investigate better harnesses that would allow me to have complete control over them when walking them by myself
(All of the above in in the order you posted it, not one word added or deleted).
You are the poster child for Breed Specific Legislation. That’s “your share of the blame since the dogs did get away from me”.
My take - you “hurried their asses to your car” to make a typical pit mauling quick escape. He caught up to you before you could leave, and you agreed to pay the vet bills. Hardly the act of an innocent pit bull owner.
But precisely the words and actions of a nutter / denier. Your own words.
You absolutely were referring to the Houston fatal mauling, because your reply was to BoyT’s post #639, which was in reply to my post #638 about the Houston fatal.
As Dan Ackroyd would say on Weekend Update:
“Shayna, you magnificently misguided slut”
Post 638 by Cougar58:
"Meanwhile, a woman is killed this week by a pit bull in Texas -
http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/1...238785781.html
while another woman has “life threatening” injuries from her pit bull mauling her insider her apartment (it continued chasing her outside her apartment- and heaven forbid - the police saved her life by shooting the land shark - yet another police use of deadly force via gun to save yet another nutter - something you will never read about in “The Pit Bull Placebo” writing by Karen Delise - founder of the NCRC National Canine research Council.
She writes that “police ride into town with both guns blazing at anything that resembles a pit bull” while making no mention of the weekly police shootings that save lives - often the lives of nutters.
http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/arti...unty-apartment
Looks like 2014 is off to yet another banner year for pit bulls.
The very next post, #639, by BoyT, :
“How were the dogs identified as pit bulls? Two of them are on the loose and have never been seen by the police of the media. That’s some quality reporting.”
Your post #655 clearly is a direct reply to #639, and even starts with a cut and paste of #639
Shayna #655 :
Originally Posted by boytyperanma View Post
How were the dogs identified as pit bulls? Two of them are on the loose and have never been seen by the police of the media. That’s some quality reporting.
Not to mention it was a pack of feral dogs. Any breed of dog that’s allowed to run feral in a pack is prone to attacking people. Jesus fuck people, get a grip on reality whydon’tcha.
Magnificently misguided slut, says Dan.
And that is an “attack?” You really are fucking dumb, aren’t you? My terriers are required to sit in the back seat because they like to climb into Daddy’s lap while he’s trying to drive. And I had a cat that would curl up under the brake pedal without me noticing. No malice was intended by any of these animals. These were not attacks, you braying jackass, but acts of affection. You are an insane twat (that word’s okay, right?) who has built up a personal reality where all dogs are psychopathic pit bulls or pit mixes whose minds you can read and what you read is, “Kill! Kill!”
I don’t particularly like REAL Pit Bulls*, but I also don’t imagine all dogs with short muzzles are pits. Or that they are going to attack me. Or that anything they do must be interpreted as an attack. That is stupid.
And cut out the red text shit. That is childish.
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- If I knew one better that would probably change, but they aren’t cuddly and I’d get a concussion if I played Clunk Heads with one.
Ooh, I just read the post above mine. I’m adding “incoherent” to my list of your fine qualities. Do you do one-person street protests?
No, you stupid fucktard, you missed the entire fucking point of my entire post, which is that dogs, including pit bulls, don’t just go after people or other dogs — and since you like red so much — UNPROVOKED.
My dogs (which weren’t even MY dogs at the time) did what ANY dog would do if another dog lunged toward it. Any dog of ANY breed. Any.
But you’re too fucking wound up about any dog described as a pit bull even if you don’t have any fucking evidence it really was a pit bull, to get that.
Stupid fucking moron.
Oh fuck off you prick. His dog had just instigated a melee with my dogs and I wanted to get them in the car so there would be no chance of any other contact whatsoever — something a responsible person does, you goddamn cretinous piece of filth.
Which you once again don’t have the brain cells to fucking comprehend. Why don’t you crawl back under the rock your moldy ass slimed its way out from under.
Regardless of your cut and paste job, I was talking about the PACK of dogs. You can keep claiming I wasn’t, but I think I know what the hell I was talking about more than you do. You aren’t even smart enough to read words on a screen for comprehension, so don’t think you can read my fucking mind you asshole.
You really are one of the most stupid, arrogant, fucking pieces of slime I have ever had the displeasure of encountering. I think we ought to enact legislation to prevent people like you from breeding. You make the world a more vile place by your arrogant stupidity alone.
Pit bulls were bred specifically to attack the other dog (or bull) in a pit, totally unprovoked. Those that did it best, went on to win.
Look it up, you magnificently…
Here is a pic of the pit bull and the woman who owned it for 19 months, who has life threatening injuries in a Johnson City, TN hospital (in a hospital room near an 8 yr old girl airlifted after her family pit bull attacked her while her mother held her in her arms)…both family pit attacks within 5 days of each other
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153703801095271&set=p.10153703801095271&type=1
this post was made by her female friend - who also owned a pit for several years. She is the one of two friends stating the woman loved that pit bull and treated it very well.
on her Instagram - she says " some girls play with dolls; real girls rescue pit bulls"
http://pinsta.me/kbaby2410
Uhh, real dead girls rescue pit bulls