Pit Bulls (continued)

and many another dog before that, including lots of larger hounds. the only dog I had that bit someone was an old female, very far along the way, who nipped a delivery guy’s shoe who stepped on her foot.

and, yes, I do understand that you won’t be convinced of any other pov than the one you have right now, and I, of course, know I’m exactly right about this matter, so…

Further discussion won’t change your mind, but it might well change someone else’s.

PANAMA CITY BEACH — A 2-year-old has returned home after a dog attack earlier this week snapped the child’s left arm, officials confirmed.

The attack was not the first by Ziggy Muggle, a black and white male pit bull, but, as it turns out, it was his last. The dog was euthanized Wednesday.

In July, the dog attacked Donna McBride’s boyfriend, Andy Gill, at their Anemone Street home. Bay County Animal Control officers could not find Gill’s pinky finger after the attack. The finger is thought to have been ingested by Ziggy, the couple’s dog.

Ziggy had grown up in the home and was seized by authorities at that time until McBride requested the dog be returned so she could find it another home, according to Animal Control activity reports.

But the dog was euthanized Wednesday after it struck again, this time latching onto the left arm of a houseguest’s 2-year-old child before also biting the guest’s ear.

McBride said precautions had been taken in the home to keep the child and the dog separated until she could find it a new home, but a moment of slack supervision led to tragedy.

“We saved this dog and were actively looking to adopt him out,” she said. “Had I ever known this would have happened, he would have been exterminated then.”
Why in the name of all that is holy would authorities allow that dog to be released the first time, back into the same home? that, folks, is inanity.

So you were gazing into the mirror as you wrote this, evidently.

Because you have demonstrated that you are willfully blind and deaf to any and all information that doesn’t coincide with what you believe. Nothing penetrates, you persist in your blinkered perception no matter what.

Like this:

Forget your hopelessly distorted view of what the risk actually is, that’s been gone over endlessly and your disinterest in understanding statistics is well established. What fascinates me is the “no good reason” part… seriously? I get that YOU do not personally relate to those of us who think the reasons are abundant and compelling, but to act like they don’t even exist, just because you don’t feel the same way? Do you really, honestly not understand how thoroughly self-involved that sounds, and how it undermines anything you have to say about it?

Interestingly, I have had dogs every single day of my life as an adult, and none of my dogs has ever even threatened any human being with so much as growl. Every single one of my dogs, at every age, understands perfectly who leads and who follows, and as a result I don’t even think about reaching right into the mouths of my dogs, including my pit and my Rotty mix, when they are chewing on or eating or playing with anything at all, including fresh, raw animal bones covered in meat, and removing it. And none of them has ever even tensed in protest, much less made any threatening move. Quite the contrary, their mouths mostly go slack (occasionally they try to hang on a little, but in a wimpy way). In fact, with my pit, I don’t even have to adopt a tone of voice with her when I hear her chewing something that doesn’t sound like it belongs to her, all I have to do is say in a conversational tone: “Zusje, what are you chewing on?” and her mouth falls open.

But YOU had a beagle who bit someone. No wonder you think it’s impossible to train dogs. (incidentally, all my dogs have been stepped on, kicked, bumped… it’s the nature of being low to the ground. Many a yelp over their lifetimes. NEVER EVER EVER a snap, bite or growl. EVER.)

this response to a news story about a pit bull attack that almost killed a woman in the midwest:

18 months ago today, the well-funded, huge lobbyist, pro-pit bull organizations, backed with millions of dollars, killed my son.

18 months ago today, the Best Friends Animal Society that claims pit bulls are “just like any other dogs,” killed my son.

18 months ago today, the National Canine Research Council, Animal Farm Foundation, BADRAP, and Pit Bulletin Legal News Network, among others, killed my son.

18 months ago today, the American SPCA, which admits the dog-aggressive heritage of the breed, but holds to the false claim that pit bulls were once “nursemaid” dogs, killed my son.

18 months ago today, television shows such as “Pit Bosses”, “Pit Bulls & Parolees,” and “The Dog Whisperer” that keep pushing the lie “It’s not the breed, it’s how you raise them,” killed my son.

18 months ago today, the people at the Humane Society of the U.S. who tell us that, “Responsible ownership is all it takes,” killed my son.

18 months ago today, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, which dropped the issue in 1998, made my son the 211th American killed by a pit bull and the 358th in recorded history.

18 months ago today, the American Veterinary Medical Association message that “The owner’s behavior is the underlying causal factor,” killed my son.

18 months ago today, the “nanny dog” myth killed my son.

18 months ago today, “All dogs bite” killed my son.

18 months ago today, parents who post photos of their pit bulls and children on Facebook killed my son.

18 months ago today, my son was killed by the truth not being told to the American public.

18 months ago today, we were by the myths, misinformation and lie that took the life of 14-month-old Daxton James Borchardt.

All of the people and organizations that I just mentioned are just as responsible for the death of my son as the pit bulls who turned “dead game” on March 6th, 2013, holding and shaking Dax in a sustained 15-minute attack that ripped his face off and crushed his skull.

The truth not being told is what killed my son 18 months ago today.

––Jeff Borchardt

East Troy, Wisconsin

That is all the ‘truth’ I need about pitbulls. All the rest of the protests about how wonderful they can be doesn’t wipe out the facts of what they sometimes are. And that is what we really don’t need to endure. We can get rid of them.

Looks like you’re set, then.

/ his

i inherited a pitbull that take care of. i love her SOOO much. she is such a sweet dog. (really). but if i were ever threatened in public, or a person was acting erratically, i would HATE to think of what happened to that person when my dog bites her. (and yes i also reach into her mouth to pullout food or play with her, but she knows and trusts me).

Not even grieving excuses that screed. (Why doesn’t he add “Obama killed my son” while he’s at it.) Probably has to make a powerpoint presentation out of the situation, blaming everyone, effectively (me included), because he doesn’t want to blame publicly the one person he probably blames most privately - himself. He probably was beating himself up - it was my fault, I trusted leaving my son in the babysitter’s house with the dogs. But that doesn’t garner sympathy.

From a follow on article:

Borchardt has forgiven Iwicki and doesn’t blame her for Dax’s death.

The woman who was* responsible* for the child, who dropped the kid in the first place, who owned the dogs and couldn’t control them - she gets forgiven?? But the SPCA, the CDC, the Humane Society, Cesar Millan, and even me - all killed his son? Whatever.

Well, good on ya, then!

What does dogsbite.org say about zombie pit bulls?

And contrary to the agreement between her and the Borchardts, failed to kennel the dogs.

According to the police report, the two dogs had been adopted at 3 months, received no training other than “sit” and “stay”, and were kept in their kennels if they didn’t obey the sit & stay.

Owners are not responsible enough to have pit bulls

3 weeks, and spent all night and the better part of each day in the kennels.

A bit different aspect of this topic…In Texas, a father is claiming that it wasn’t the family dogs that attacked his 5 years old daughter, but a pack of three strays. Police say there is no way of determining which dogs almost killed the girl.

I dispute that. In a case like this, police should realize that criminal charges might well be the result of the attack, and that collecting hairs, saliva, bite mark impressions is very important. No dog should ever be accused of being a killer unless the proof is clear – eyewitness, etc.

La la la la la

5-year-old girl bitten in the face by Labrador mix dog, saved by family pit bull

*Walesky says the girl was bitten by a Labrador mix (someone else’s dog) and then that dog was attacked by the girl’s family pet dog, a pitbull.

Palm Beach County Animal Care and Control says the …dog [that attacked the girl] was severely injured when they picked up the animal.

The owner surrendered the Labrador mix, which was euthanized Saturday evening.*

P.S. I also put my hands in my pit bulls’ mouths when they have something in them I don’t think they should be eating. They’ve never once even hinted at the notion of snapping at me. But I assure you, if a dog were coming at me, they’d fucking kill it.

It’s gotten to the point now with Zusje that all I have to do is LOOK at her and her mouth falls open to let go of whatever she’s got.

“Dogs can sense when something is wrong, and will react accordingly. Chance knew there was something wrong with his owner and decided that he needed to act. This shows not only great intuition from the dog, but also good training from his owner. Many people would fear this kind of dog, but this really shows that if you train a dog well it doesn’t matter what the breed is - they will be good dogs.”

True Story Of A True Hero

Portage Indiana…40 year old man whose friends had warned him about the aggressiveness of his pit bull, killed by it. A local dog care professional was extensively quoted how one should not blame the breed of dog who kills someone…all dogs are capable of it…and, he has seen ''as many good pit bulls as I have seen bad ones".

As many…so…what, around 3 or 4 million ‘bad’ pit bulls in our homes, yards, runs? I appreciate that some owners reading this will protest, properly, that ‘their’ pit bull is just fine, thank you, don’t even speculate about taking him away… but, people…I trust you, but I don’t trust your neighbor, the one with the ‘bad’ pit bull, to make sure that dog doesn’t break through a screen and attack me as I walk by on the street. How are you going to make sure that your neighbor’s vicious dog won’t attack me, so it will be appropriate for you to continue to house your ‘good’ pit bull?

Happy Holidays everyone!