Pitting Max_S

Honestly I’m surprised tipping of all things is what got me pitted.

~Max

Is there anything else we should cover while we’re here? :smiling_imp:

Why should I of all people tell you which of my opinions are most despicable??? If I thought it was worth pitting I probably wouldn’t hold it in the first place.

~Max

But see, I can’t know how far the driver has to drive when I use a food delivery service. She’s probably not picking up only from the restaurant where I ordered and delivering only to me. AIUI, most drivers deliver for more than one app and from more than one restaurant at the same time.

All I know for sure is that someone has gone to some time and trouble to pick up my order and bring it to my door, so I tip generously. (There are 18 stairs to my apartment. I figure that’s a consideration) A fundamental difference between Max and me is that he’s more worried about getting ripped off, and I’m more worried about ripping off others.

That doesn’t seem to be a very clear way of thinking about it.

As I see it, fundamental to the issue is the screwed-up way we handle tipping here: as a combination of payment for services (i.e., bringing the server’s wage up to something reasonable) and gratuity.

The actual gratuity part should be optional. It’s nice for when the server goes above and beyond, but that’s about it. It doesn’t have to scale with the difficulty of the service.

The payment for services shouldn’t be optional. And furthermore, this part should scale with distance/time, because wages do, and if we have to bring a half an hour of wages to an acceptable value, then we should pay twice what it would have been for 15 minutes.

Well, I’d feel bad paying $2 for a 6 mile delivery. It’s just that I see the delivery and service fees as part of what I’m paying for the delivery, and if I’m paying $7 for that service I’m not ripping anyone off.

There is no scenario where I’d be paying $12 for that delivery (tip included). It’s not worth the value. I would sooner stop having food delivered, and many people argued for that.

~Max

I’m just curious. Since you thought you would be pitted, but you’re surprised it was the tips, what did you think it would be that got you Pitted?

Well we agree on that, at least.

My view of your threads is that you seem to have no ability to distinguish between good (or at least reasonable) ideas and obviously stupid ideas, and you embrace both types with equal enthusiasm. You then have no consideration of your audience’s likely attention span when framing a debate or advocating a position. You generate thousands of words trying to present yourself as a Deep Thinker having a Great Debate, exploring all of the political/philosophical/scientific foundations and implications of these ideas in excruciating detail. And inevitably it’s the times when your starting point was an obviously very stupid idea that the thread gets far more attention. What I remember about you are the occasions when you posted vast diatribes apparently trying to fashion a PhD thesis around something so breathtakingly stupid that you should have dismissed it 10 seconds after the idea occurred to you.

When I look back more objectively at your posting history, it’s fair to say that most of what you write is non-stupid - but inevitably far less memorable than the stupid stuff.

I mean, that’s literally why I joined and what I strive to be. It was right there in the ad, “surely there’s value in having to defend your views in open debate, and in having cherished beliefs challenged”, “you could venture any opinion you cared to provided you remained civil”. Yeah, sometimes that is literally how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. And sometimes it is posting about something you wouldn’t normally bother telling other people about, like why you don’t tip, or your concept of race or nation, or whether it is reasonable to be offended by something.

~Max

You strive to be someone who cannot discern the difference between good ideas and obviously stupid ideas?

Or, I can tell the difference (usually, we all have our blind spots) but embrace debate on both with equal enthusiasm.

~Max

Tell us about your aggressive campaign to have all cats in the US declawed…

Bicycles - should they stop at stop signs?

Doesn’t it depend on how far they traveled to get to the stop sign ?

TIP IS JUST PIT BACKWARDS!!!

Please tell me you don’t have anything to do with QBB also…?

Declawed? I plan to have them depawed.

Two weeks later…

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Drunk driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time so its impossible to say if it’s good or bad.

Seems like the delivery fee would pay for the delivery.