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Hi All,
I’m putting together a gaming pc for my dad. I was hoping you would comment on my component selection. Anecdotes about parts, possible problems, opinions on alternatives, that kind of thing.

ASUS CROSSHAIR Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Windsor 2.8GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA5600CZBOX - Retail

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail

Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400LLK - Retail

SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD321KJ 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner included extra White bezel, with 12X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model LH-20A1P-186 - Retail

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-550HT ATX12V / EPS12V 550W Power Supply - Retail

Any particular reason you are going AMD? Intel currently has the performance lead. If it is purely price, then you are overspending on a $250 motherboard.

Also, check Asus web site to ensure the memory is compatible. Just had that issue with some GeIL memory and an EVGA mobo and I was quite unhappy.

Yeah, I’m doing more research now re: AMD vs Intel. When I first started looking around there were so many Intel things to research I just sort of slid into AMD…lazy. I’m putting together another Intel list that I’ll post soon.

I want to overspend on the motherboard for upgrading later. I know I’m not going to get the best processor now, but I’d like to get a board that supports the current best (at least) at a later time.

I’m thinking I’ll change the core of the system to this:

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail

EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail

While I don’t know your financial profile for your build (I’m guessing it is fairly high), personally I would shave some $$ on the mobo and channel it into a sound card (unless you are transfering one from your current system) or to a second hard disk for RAID. I’ve seen this board recommended in some “Killer Rig” reviews, so I’m sure it is a great board.

Second, I was recently looking at reviews for the 640MB 8800GTS, and I couldn’t find any reviews giving it a great edge over the 320MB version. If I had the $$, I still opt for 640MB, as the vid card is usually the first component to become ‘outdated’.

Processor choice is more than fine - the next step up cost ~$100 more, and IMHO is not worth it. I know it $300 more, but did you consider Quad core?

Lastly, the notes I’ve read consider stock Intel cooling adequate to good, but noisy. Have you considered other cooling solutions?

Yeah, this box won’t be the cheapest. Like I said in OP, it’s for dad, so he’s paying. I don’t want to waste his money but I don’t think I’m doing that yet. My newegg cart with the setup above (cpu, mb, vcard, ram, hd, dvd, psu) is a little over $1100 with rebates. Add in case (cooler master centurion?), cpu cooler (thermalright ultra 120, definitely), display (??? no idea yet), and shipping will be another $400-$500 for an estimated total of $1500-$1600. I do want it semi-future-proofed so he doesn’t want another new box in 18 months. I am planning on upgrading it, though, and I think my choices of ‘Very nice but not ultra-top-of the line components’ allow for that.

It all starts with the motherboard. Like you said, that’s a nice board. It supports quad cores so when those get more mature we can slide one in there (although 45nm tech will probably be tempting). Easy to add 2 more 1gb ram sticks (or go 4x2gb). I’m going w/the 640mb video card because I can completely imagine new games in 2-3 years benefiting from more than 1gb video ram if I go SLI with 2x 8800GTS.

Oh, and my dad’s losing his hearing so the onboard sound should be fine…:wink: But that’s another easy upgrade.

A couple of points spring to mind:

1: The 8800 geforce card. Yes It’s uber powerful, but the main selling point is it’s DX10 compatability. This means getting Vista (is that figured in to your budget), which despite the big improvements still has some driver/compatability problems.

If your not going Vista then you could save money in the long run by getting a couple of 512 SLI cards now and upgrading in 18 months time.

2: Monitor? Are you going to use one already owned and if so what size are we talking about? Again your graphics card might be overkill if you’re using anything less than 23" (from what I’ve read the 8800’s only really come into their own around the 28-30" mark.

3:Cooling. If you’re scratch building it’s definitely worthwile spending a few quid extra on improved fans and heatsinks. My main rigs starting to show it’s age with some of the latest games but £60 on heatsinks and a few hours of overclocking have just bumped by graphics card performance by 30%. CPU is next.

Bunny,
Interesting points in #1&2. Got links to any reviews regarding the monitor size and the 8800? Because while I’m not going to be installing vista initially, I’m planning on doing it in the future.

I’ve got the cooling covered. The CoolerMaster Centurion 534 has 120mm fans, a side intake, and I’m planning on getting a nice aftermarket cpu cooler.

That is the mobo I’ll be ordering in the next couple of days for my new box. I have a EVGA 8800 GTX GPU and love it. The idea of being able to chain two of them together with SLI is sweet.

Just a word of caution about the NVIDIA 680i boards: I bought a ASUS Striker Extreme and had a lot of problems with it. Checking ASUS’ fora I learned it’s kinda hit or miss, problem-wise, and some of the problems are related to the 680i chipset. I’d check EVGA fora to see if people are having any problems there.

What do you guys have in terms of cpu heatsink? I can’t figure out which quality one to buy. All seem to have their issues.

I just used the heatsink/cooling fan that came with the CPU. I’m not overclocking or anything, so that should be sufficient.