And, of course, those who participated in January 6 are quite possibly going to be pardoned.
I’m addressing the people saying hyperbolically that he can do whatever he wants like cancel elections, get elected for a third term, have soldiers quartered in your home, etc.
Exactly. Trump didn’t get what he wanted. People stood up to him and he lost. According to your claim that he can do whatever he wants, then his insurrection should have succeeded which shows that your hyperbolic claims are unfounded. One things is true though
Everybody cheered
Which is why he won’t rely on those people this time. Not that he needs to.
You seem to want a hypothetical situation. Try this. Trump decides to stop funding the EPA and uses that money to round up undocumented immigrants. How do you stop him? Even if congressional Democrats manage to block it in Congress, but he does it anyway. Then what?
And the Beer Hall Putsch failed, Hitler was arrested, tried and imprisoned. Newspaper headlines declared his political power was gone and he was no longer a threat.
And you seem to agree with them.
Are you saying I’m defending Trump? Because I have not. I’m just saying that these claims that he can willfully violate the Constitution or go on a death hunt for prominent Democrats and no one can/will stop him are ridiculous … especially when the whole argument in support is, “He can. QED” Very much the flat Earth style of rhetoric.
I do agree with Horatius that it has happened in very specific, isolated cases and I agree with you that Trump and his buddies will violate a bunch of little laws (compared to outright violating the Constitution or putting Democrats in camps) and yes sadly they will probably never be punished (at least severely) for them.
Sue him.
“Case dismissed.”
On what grounds?
Trump doesn’t like it.
Then I’m appealing the dismissal, requesting a change of venue, and filing a complaint with the bar association that will result in this judge being stripped of his license to practice law for sheer lack of impartiality.
The entire time this process is playing out there’ll be a stay in effect that prevents Trump from redirecting a single penny of federal money that hasn’t been allocated properly, and by the time it’s resolved President Fetterman will have been sworn in.
No. I’m just using a counterargument to the idea that Trump can do anything he want and will succeed. It may be weak, but still better than any argument that Der Trihs has come up with which are all just variations of, “Nuh-uh. I’m right. That’s my evidence.”
But that’s the old “thin edge of the wedge” problem. The internment of the Japanese was an aberration, because the people involved honestly thought they were preventing a problem in the middle of a war (okay, sure, that “problem” was based on racism, but they really were fighting a war; had Japan never attacked, they never would have done this).
But Trump and his Project 2025 buddies aren’t fighting a war. The bigotry is the whole point, and they’ll be quite happy to do it.
But they know they have to build up to the really bad stuff. Even Hitler didn’t start with death camps, he started with forced labor camps for “criminals” (that term being defined by Hitler, sure, but it was a nice fig leaf at the beginning). People got used to the idea that, of course these criminals needed to be rounded up.
Then they just kept expanding the definition of “criminal”.
This can happen in the US. Pretending it can’t is being wilfully blind.
Yeah, impounding funds made illegal in 1974.
Denied
Denied
Denied, and you’re held in contempt of court for filing a frivolous lawsuit. Off to the Happy Camps with you!
Spoiler Alert: Everyone in this process is an appointee recommended by the Federalist Society. Capture of the judiciary is one of the biggest (and currently most successful) parts of their whole plan.
But it was also based on “national security” trumps (no pun intended) the Constitution. For the courts to allow Trump to violate the Constitution, what justification would they be able to come up with. Think about it, you’re the senior justice for the majority and the case where Trump eliminates all state elections (and DC) for presidential electors. How do you justify it?
“I couldn’t think of anything else to say.”
This makes sense to me
So this is a fantasy then which is in no way grounded in reality.
Good to know.
(And where’s the money to run the “happy camps” coming from?)
Last time I checked, the following facts were true-
Our government has three branches.
As President, Trump is the executive branch.
Trump has reshaped the Republican party into an organization that exists only to serve him… The Republicans have control of the legislative branch. Thus, so does Trump.
Beginning with obstructing Obama’s nominees to the Supreme Court, Trump and the Republicans seated justices that would hold loyalty to Trump above all else. So, Trump controls the judicial branch.
That is all three branches.
Trump will also be commander in chief of the armed forces.
The Supreme Court will always rule in the way Trump wants. It will not matter how flagrantly unconstitutional something is. A Republcan controlled congress will never act to remove a justice.
Trump and his allies will then begin using force to stay in power.
Some of this will not be immediate. First, get tough on ‘illegal immigrants’ and any LGBTQ Americans. As I keep saying, expect their rights to be moved back decades to a pre Stonewall state within six months at most.