Please, turn left in front of the next train or semi....

I really don’t wish this on the train engineer or truck driver, but another biker I know is in the hospital, and his wife is dead. The type of drivers that have no road manners or patience are killing us, and hiding behind “I didn’t see him!” I know the man that was just hit and he always rode with his light on. People, that extra 5 seconds you might have to wait in letting that motorcycle go by IS a matter of life and death, not whether you make it to the store ahead of the next guy or to church on time! PLEASE, watch for bikes, and give them the space they deserve. This advice can save a life. I’d like to really cuss and rant, but I’d rather this message be taken quite seriously.

later, Tom

Tom,
As a fellow biker (Harley, to boot), my most sincere sympathies. My husband was in a terrible accident last year from someone who “just didn’t see him” and made a left turn into his oncoming bike. I’m so sorry to hear about your friends. What a tragedy.

Yes, it’s a calculated risk riding a bike, but please people- pay attention and be safe out there. Don’t cut off bikes or shove them out of lanes. Just be aware that they’re out there.

Zette
PS- Your friend must have had an older bike if he had the option to turn the light off while driving- If I’m not mistaken, all bikes manufactured after a certain year have automatic lights that come on when the ignition is started. I just wanted to point that out before someone came along and said “Well, maybe you guys should turn your lights on”.

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When you’re out there on the scooter, you’ve got to consider anything with more than 3 wheels as driven by the sight impared, mentaly handicaped, pissed off and can’t see anythong but a mirage of whoever, or all or a combination there of.

Paranoia GOOD!

In sympathy…

Turned in front of a bike earlyer this year. Thank anyone you belive in the the rider was a better driver than me. He managed to just clip the very back of my truck. I pulled off the road as fast as I could. The Bike rider had gotten up off the ground before I was stopped. Not a mark on him. No road rash. I feel so bad. I not only caused this man to lay down his bike but the police showed up and the rider didn’t have a motorcycle license yet. I still feel bad about this. It has tought me to be more attentive when I drive.

That’s really sad. I always give extra room to bikers and to semi-trucks.

Beware the cagers! Any of us could be next.

What if the next train or semi is on the right? :smiley:

Seriously, though… I’ve heard many a horror story from friends and family involving people getting hurt in car-motorcycle accidents. I think the clincher was when my dad told me about a guy who lost his testicles in one such accident, simply because someone clipped him. He was stopped, waiting to turn left, and someone barely grazed him. I’ve been very courteous to motorcycle riders ever since.

Scooter rider here. let me just add that the next driver who thinks s/he has the right to overtake me and push me nearly off the road, will be greeted that night by the sight of me hovering over their head with an acme anvil.

thank you.

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*Originally posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly *
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What if the next train or semi is on the right? :smiley:

Sometimes, smiles and flip answers don’t cut it.
As I said, I’d like this to be taken very seriously. A person I know died. Here’s an IOU for a flame.

Booker, big of you to admit that. Luckily no serious injury for that lesson you learned.

later, Tom.

I always turn on the high-beam when I’m lane-sharing. And my thumb is on the horn, just in case. There’s a little game I play: “Find the Killer”. If I win, I live.

I used to work with a guy who boasted that he always kept his eyes 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile ahead when he road so that he could see what people were up to. Me? I pay very close attention to cars that are a lot closer. Someone who changes lanes half a mile away isn’t a factor. Someone who changes lanes a car-length ahead of me is.

Oh Tom, I am so sorry to hear about your friend.

My brother always hammered into me to be careful around bikes.

One thing he told me that I had never thought of- don’t tailgate a bike, ever. He was always worried that if he did lay down his bike, he would be ok except for the nimrod who ran him over because he was following too closely.

I always give riders a good 2-3 car lengths in front of me, and if some car drivers don’t like it, fuck 'em.

I don’t have any statistics to back this up, but I don’t think that it’s a good idea for motorcycles to carry passengers. I’ve ridden motorcycles for 20 years and so I read the newspaper stories every time I see the “motorcycle crash” headline. It has been my policy to not allow passengers because it seems that every time there is a crash, the passenger gets horribly injured or killed. This even happens when the motorcycle driver walks away with no injuries from the crash!!! Riders on motorcycles are a very bad idea.

Hey Jack-Off, might I suggest that you take this as your sig, you festering pustule of stupidity and ignorance? I would also suggest you do a board search on “squicking”. You may find the sensation on you poor,blighted stump of a dick is wonderful-when you do it to yourself.
[end hijack]- sorry. 1st time I’ve seen him in the pit and I just got carried away. I rode bikes for years, and I hope your friend is O.K.

{ Hey Jack-Off, might I suggest that you take this as your sig, you festering pustule of stupidity and ignorance? I would also suggest you do a board search on “squicking”. You may find the sensation on you poor,blighted stump of a dick is wonderful-when you do it to yourself. }

<jolly laugh trying to get everyone to laugh along> I apologize for weirddave everyone, he's . . . well, weird.

Forgive, also, the hijack.

Welcome to The Pit, Jack-off. In here we don’t have to hold back about you and your penile fixation.

I will, however, leave the flaming up to others (which is rather ironic, me being the Gay Guy and all).

Enjoy getting your ass roasted, you fuck-up! :smiley:

Esprix

Hey Jackoff-
Why don’t you ask some of your “test subjects” (read- homeless guys you paid $5 to for snapshots of their dicks) to tea-bag you and stay the hell out of our hair? This thread, believe it or not, is not about you or your opinions, or your unfounded statistics. Go felch a rabid goat, you penis obsessed moron.

This thread is about people driving carefully around motorcyclists and the consequences of not doing so.

Zette

Another hijack, with my apologies …

Does anyone else find it ironic that Jack inadvertently put the “Jewish” smilie in his post? (I’m assuming it was inadvertent, anyway).

My condolences on your friends, Tom. I hope the man pulls through okay.

I was walking on the sidewalk last year when I saw a car make a left in front of a bike. I biker managed to almost dodge the car but it slightly clipped his handle bars causing him to turn into oncoming traffic. Incredibly he managed to regain controll and dodge the oncoming cars. The guy was so close to serious harm, twice! After this he promptly pulled off the road and laid down for a rest. The car driver used the familiar excuse “I didn’t see you”.
My condolences too Tom

I really think I do. Though I am not a very religious person, nor do (tell myself) I believe in the paranormal. However, when some cocksucker pulls some crap like in the OP, I know, I just know that should he knock me off my bike I will haunt his ass into the ground.

My sincerest sympathies to all who have felt the pain of a loss.

About 4 years ago now I was inside and I heard a nasty crash sound outside. I went to the window to look and didn’t see anything but a car pulling a U-y and turning around. It’s headlights flashed off of something in the road and when I looked closer I saw a bike and a man lying in the road. I hung up on the person I was talking to and dialed 911… ran out tossing the phone at my mom and headed outside. The biker had riden right into the back of a parked white delivery truck (please bear thru this… I am NOT blaming the biker) At the time I was well-trained in first aid (I’ve let that fall to the way-side the last few years) I knew better than to try and move him so I leaned over to check his breathing the way he was… I lived at the bottem of a long hill… when I turned my head I could see a car BOMBING down straight at us… By this time there were two cars stopped and a whole lotta people all around.

Well the dood was lying in the middle of road right… and this car didn’t look like it was slowing at all…

So I ran out to the first intersection (I was right under a streetlight) and there were three other people all doing the same thing)and we were all jumping up and down and waving our arms and yelling and the car drove right thru us (I had to jump out of the way - My mom thought she had hit me)

Thankfully, one of the guys had stayed with the biker and when he saw that the woman wasn’t stopping he grabbed the dudes arm and pulled him mostly out of the way. I turned around to see her tire clip the back of his helmet and his head bounce around on the pavement.

I ran back to him… and he was breathing but his mouth was filling with blood and he was choking on it… so I got some guys to help me roll him onto his side (3/4 prone postion)with a purse under his head to keep his neck in line…

He had bitten through his tongue AND his helmet strap was choking him… I sent someone for scissors because it was stretched so tight that he couldn’t breathe… at this point a neighbor who is a nurse (much more qualified than I) and the police and an ambulance showed up so I stepped back.

The man was in a coma for 5 months (i think) before he died.

The family came around to see where it had happened and a neighbor they were talking to pointed me out pointed me out… His brother was crying and asked me if he had said anything before he was hit the second time… he hadn’t.

Anyhoo… sorry I sidetracked into the whole thing. What we figure happened… although no one will ever really know but that car I saw turning around… was that he tried to change lanes but this car cut him off (this was very close to a dangerous intersection)and he had to change lanes back and hit the truck… however the car said he jsut sailed into it shrug they are the only witnesses but the skid marks agree with something more like the hypothosis I gave.

He may have been okay if it hadn’t been for that second car. It took me years to forgive myself for trying to stop her instead of trying to orchestrate a move of the biker… but I thought she’d stop. there were cars all turned that way… with headlights on and all…

Sorry. This came back to haunt me a while ago and this seemed like an okay place to say it again.

That woman got off scot-free… it makes me sick.