Point out logic/plausibility flaws in classic movies and TV shows

Lau was alone.
The Joker killed the cop that was in the interrogation room with him.

:smack: I knew that, believe it or not. I even knew that Cyrus’s meeting was specifically in Van Cortland park, so I’m not sure why I typed that.

I think you may need to rewatch the scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_gawHgA0-k&list=WLBNOaZ6rpkDlWUeBPMp0NtFqKqT7mDvzB

From 1:05 - 1:50, you can clearly see that The Joker was surrounded by 3-4 cops. All farther away from the explosion than he, yet he’s the only one unaffected.

From 3:07 - 3:15, you can see that Lao was not alone. There was a dead cop in the clearly devastated room he was held in. The Joker even tugs at his badge.

While we know that’s true because we saw the ship in the first movie, does the company know it? My impression was that the explored galaxy in those movies was mostly lifeless and humans hadn’t encountered much in the way of complex life and nothing that was sentient.

I don’t see why it must be the case that the ship would have been detected. I can imagine several ways of surveying a cloud-covered planet to be sure it’s suitable for terraforming that don’t involve taking detailed photographs of every inch of its surface. On that note, it was hard for the marine pilot to find where she was intending to land at the colony even though she knew exactly what she was looking for and where. Based on that, I’d say that the technology to easily find the ship didn’t exist.

And all this assumption about the surveying efforts of W-Y are irrelevant if you merely assume that the colony was put down as bait. Expensive bait, but yes: bait.

Near the end of Silver Streak, the FBI finally catches George (Gene Wilder) and the agent in charge asks him about Devereau’s plans. Then he makes plans to stop the train, invites George along, and gives him a gun and ammunition. I’m pretty sure the real FBI isn’t in the habit of arming book publishers and bringing them along when they go to arrest someone.

Victory

  1. They tie.

  2. Putting aside that these are POW’s who would have very little stamina, the idea of a 47-year old Michael Caine going the full 90 is larffable.

One thing that is very realistic…Stallone looks and plays EXACTLY like a 5’6" American who’s never played goalkeeper.

That was the legal precedent for giving Harry a gun and bulletproof vest in Dumb & Dumber.

Since the colonists possessed neither spaceships nor aircraft what would have been the odds of placing the terraforming facility within close proximity of the alien ship? Throw a quarter out of an airplane over Brazil and then find that quarter.

Not going to happen.

W-Y obviously had to survey the moon to see if it would even work. If they are that incompetent, then that makes the Alien universe even more sad and inept than it already appears to be (“Let’s fly light years away and throw a terraforming station on any old moon.”)

Sorry…it’s a plot hole.

Like the one where everybody goes down to the planet and no one is left on board the Sulaco. Or when Ripley basically tells them that they don’t need her to go and then Gorman reiterates that statement when he tells his people that her entire briefing is on tape for them to study.

Or when their first plan isn’t to bring down the drop ship when the other one crashes. Or when the only radio antenna for terraforming station’s complex isn’t on the command center. Or how NONE of the colonists thought to flee the station when it was clear that the Xenomorphs were taking over. Or how Ripley seems to have forgotten that she was surprised by Alien in the first film and then gets “surprised” again in the second one.

It was a good film in 1986 when it came out. However, when you look at it for more than a few seconds you realize that everyone would have to be a idiot for the plot to succeed

Here’s one my young son came up with: I was reading him Stanley–Flat Again!, a sequel to Flat Stanley, in which the hero is flattened to paper thickness by a bulletin board that falls on him in his bed, but not otherwise harmed. He’s eventually restored with a bicycle pump. In Stanley–Flat Again! the bulletin board once more squashes Stanley.

My son’s reaction: “Why did they *still *have the bulletin board up in his room?”

In Dumb & Dumber, why would Mary be so happy that Lloyd returned the briefcase? The money therein was supposed to ransom her kidnapped husband.

This. Especially “Petticoat Junction”. Three hot babe daughters working at the only hotel at the stop of the major transportation route (utilized by all the travelling salesmen of the day), and not one of them gets knocked up !
(Uncle Joe wasn’t just a good-for-nothing after all !)

In the ST: TNG episode Cause and Effect, the crew realizes they are stuck in a time loop. Someone suggests reversing course to avoid the impending collision, and the idea is shot down because, “For all we know, reversing course leads to the accident”…

uhm…no. You had no reason to reverse course the first time it happened, therefore the accident isn’t behind you.

It has been well-established by several rabid fans with much too much time of their collective hands, that the Shady Rest was, in fact, a brothel, and the girls are ‘managed’ by Uncle Joe.
:smiley:

That’s very true.

Also, they could have used both Riker’s plan (decompressing the shuttle bay) and Data’s plan (using the tractor beam) at the same time. The combination of the two would have also avoided the incident.,

You’re right, I thought The Joker was still in the interrogation room when the bomb went off. He wasn’t, BUT…

he was the only one who knew the blast was coming so he got the hell down before the blast hit.

Plot hole averted!

So the actual use of petticoats was just a ruse to throw off the vice squad ? :wink:

Yeah, I don’t think the blast killed anybody except for the cops treating the guy with the bomb inside him. But it was enough to knock everyone down long enough for the Joker to get out. There were obviously other baddies in play, since someone drives the Joker out of there in the police car.

Advertising. If the petticoats were on the water tower, they were open for business. Notice how, when the train whistles that it has customers aboard, the girls grab the petticoats and head to work.

His head still got caught in the gust of wind from the explosion. Being much closer to the window than the other cops, he should’ve been knocked out just as they were, if not worse.