Police: Teens killed man -- just because

For whoever asked, we have states and territories, and some racial problems that tend to be more directed to boat people, these days.

The news here (at least, the Sydney Morning Herald) just ran the pictures and didn’t mention the race of the shooters as an issue or anything else.

The mood here tends to run to crazy Americans have guns everywhere and are crazy about guns, and the stupidity of that. As the token American in most places, I’m getting some question (why are Americans so stupid about guns?) but I get that a lot.

I sympathise slightly with OP. OTOH, I don’t see news stories mentioning the race of yesterday’s Georgia shooter either. As with the Oklahoma shooters, one can Google for an image and then guess the race.

No, even if tried as an adult, a minor still can’t get the death penalty. I’d be very surprised if they weren’t tried as adults though, especially the 16- and 17-year-olds.

Yeah, but you know the really weird thing?

The Herald Sun (paper version) ran with front page mugshots of the three teens as its lead story. Or at least, it tried to. What it actually ran with was mugshots of James Edwards and Chancey Luna … plus a random jet-black kid labelled Michael Jones.

:confused:

Don’t ask me WTF was going on there. I guess Michael Jones is a pretty common name. On the website the picture is right (well, it’s the same picture everyone else is running so I SUPPOSE it’s right, who can tell) but I see no apology for the screwup.

Back on the racial issue, I’ve just seen a bunch of surmising about how the 2 “black” kids get charged with Murder and the “white” kid doesn’t.

For mine that is seriously clutching at straws but, any thoughts from people closer to the situation? (as in, in the same country)

I did not see that. Weird.

Unless you’re in a school or a movie theatre.

Maybe that’s why he hasn’t been back.

The kid not being charged with murder was the driver. He’s being charged with accessory to murder and other stuff.

I don’t know about America, but here in the UK the Press Complaints Commission code of practice specifically states that a person’s race should not be mentioned unless it is pertinent to the story. I can’t see how it is “genuinely relevant to the story” in this case.

This is the headline:

I have no idea what this means.

No, in the United States, there is no such legal restriction on the press.

Is it “dobbed in” which is causing you grief?

Means “told authorities about”

That helps. The sentence could also use some coordinating conjunctions and punctuation.

Yeah, the picture in this article was the first one I saw. When I saw people referring to a white kid as one of the shooters, I’m thinking…umm what?.. there were no white kids in that pic. Then I saw the booking photos.

So where did they get that original third kid? Did they just pick someone out of the Suspicious Minority Scrapbook :trade_mark: and run with it?

Well, the Examiner network is a pretty conservative rag, so that’s probably what they did.

Some teens and young adults do kill people just for the fun of it. It happens.

Then, while I understand the desire to be merciful to younger people, they should be killed in the most obscene and painful way, their heads attached to poles and paraded through the halls of places where you find mush-brained people like that. Had a distant cousin who was a thrill killer. They should have cut him into pieces, starting with arms and legs and other appendages and fed them to the hogs while he watched, his eyelids surgically removed.

I’d be a little more merciful to those who kill while robbing or raping or rioting. Just kill them with a red hot poker inserted into their rectum, then bury them in a manure pile.

the idea that there is any justification, for intentionally killing as a crime or in conjunction with a crime, is simply bullshit.

And, too, guns should be banned from anyone’s hands until they are 40.

He wasn’t needed there. There was no slushie involved.

Not if that wasn’t her point.

It’s irrelevant, irrelevant I say!

Ha!

I am pretty certain that as far back in time as you’d like to consider, groups of young men have ganged up on solitary youths from other “clans”. I also feel confident in presuming that members of distinct “tribes” used appearance to distinguish non-members of their group.

That said, it seems to me that the inclination on the part of news sources to omit mention of the races of the victim/perpetrators, or to show photos of the suspects amounts to political correctness, which I suppose is to be expected from the media. Since it’s fairly easy to find out that the victim was White and the suspects are Black, I don’t see the controversy here. I expect the news to err on the side of PC, and I gather interested parties will make the little bit of effort to gain more information if they consider it to be pertinent.

Also, unless it was a case of self defense or mistaken identity, who cares if the perpetrators were racially motivated in their choice of a victim? Some observers will make the presumption that they were racist, and some will deny it until and if the teens admit they were, which won’t happen unless one or all of them ignores the advice of defense council … so, what difference does it really make?

What are boat people?

It’s fairly easy to find out that the suspects are black, mixed, and white.