I primarily care about political positions, and will always vote for the candidate who I agree with the most. I never agree with their religion, being an atheist.
But if I had to choose between a Mormon and a Protestant or Catholic, all other things being equal, I would not vote for the Mormon. It’s much more obviously false and scam-driven (at least in its origin) than the others.
But I’d vote for a Mormon over a Scientologist, FWIW…
I’m one of those 60. The poll itself isn’t about Romney. The last option is ‘I wouldn’t vote for a devout Mormon.’ I find it incredibly unlikely I’d vote for anyone I consider a truly devout follower of any religion.
The poll is flawed as to how people define ‘devout’ I don’t find Romney’s Mormonism to be particularly devout and wouldn’t have an issue voting for him based on his religion.
I kind of feel anyone running for political office isn’t particularly devout, because they are devoting their time to something other then their religion.
His being religious at all bothers me, as I think it means either he’s awfully impressionable or he’s lying. Sorry, by the way, if that offends anybody. But since practically all politicians identify as as religious, I practically always vote for religious ones.
Besides, I wouldn’t vote for him anyway.
I am interested, though, in how much it will hold him back.
I see you’re a biogt.
Of course if they’re going to avenge Joseph Smith’s murder they’ll have to dom something about the Mountain Meadows Massacre (9-11-1857).
By that logic anybody who isn’t a preacher or a priest or otherwise a member of the clergy is not devoutly religious.
As for myself while I believe Mormonism is a heresy and about as Christian as say Islam is, he is still the best candidate for POTUS as political office is not a religious job although it may require some sound moral judgement.
So you’re okay that you think he’s a spineless imposter who panders to the Evangelical left?
Dreams. You can have my copy. My eyes bled from rolling them so much.
I agree with what I bolded. I’d be more inclined to vote Ibn in for political office than Zogby, but that’s because of personal political positions and perceived ethnocentric-ism, not one’s religion.
What do you think devoutly religious people do all day? :dubious:
Oh no doubt. While Huckabee was still considering running I would have been more scared of him than Romney and the only reason I’m not afraid of Gingrich is I think he has a dog’s chance in Hell of getting the nomination.
I’m not liberal, and this is one of the things I actually like about the Obamas. I think it’s **far **more likely that our president is secretly an atheist than a secret Muslim, and I’m okay with that.
Hey. John D. Lee was executed for it. It’s all even! L
Well, there’s a tradeoff. Pro: Secret atheists are more rational, better dental plan. Cons: Secret Muslims get a cooler cult outfit and secret headquarters.
It is, of course, possible that he’s changed his mind on the question between 2004 and now.
My opinion of his religion is a moot point, since there are so many other reasons not to vote for him.
Well, one of my best friends at one time was a devout Mormon. I might vote for someone like her.
But it’s a question of what the other candidates are like, yes?
For most offices, I wouldn’t much care, & Mormons might be less crazy than say, Calvinists, Dispensationalists, & Pre-Millennialists (shudder). But at some level I might be a bit leery.
Wow, putting it that way, Mormons sound not so bad. Then I remember Prop 8.
His salesmanship scares me. He’s an apparent moderate, so could do some lasting damage.
I’m so glad that young people like you (or like me at your age), who don’t have enough sense to have developed sound moral judgment, are not making that call. Romney seems rather unsound to me. Granted, so do most of the rest of the conservative movement, in different ways.
As a quietly Pagan lesbian, I’d be afraid to see a devout Mormon (not sure whether Romney qualifies as “devout”), Christian, Muslim or even strongly conservative Jew in office. I mean, apparently there are places in America now where honest-to-god witch hunts are already being called for.
Like 63 others (at the time of this posting), I, too, would never vote for a devout Mormon of any political party.
I am surprised at these poll responses, with most of the respondents voting that they wouldn’t vote for him based on his religion. I thought our board was a little more progressive than that.
If someone made a poll about Barack Obama and the majority responded, “I wouldn’t vote for Obama because he’s black,” there would be a board uproar to the likes we’ve never seen.
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As a quietly Pagan lesbian, I’d be afraid to see a devout Mormon (not sure whether Romney qualifies as “devout”), Christian, Muslim or even strongly conservative Jew in office. I mean, apparently there are places in America now where honest-to-god witch hunts are already being called for.
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Cite?
So not voting for a Pagan because she’s a Pagan: ignorant. Not voting for a Mormon because he’s a Mormon: perfectly fine.
Cite? By politicians in office? Or by fundie nuts?
The operative word in the OP, for me anyway, was “devout.” This suggests that the candidate is not just a member of the religion but is guided mainly by the beliefs of that religion, before anything else.
Bolding mine. This is what scares me about the devout. Their moral judgement is handed to them by a select group (the church) but they honestly believe that it is a universal morality.
Sarah’s Palin’s former pastor in Wasilla led literal witch hunts in Kenya. There is video of him blessing her and giving a prayer to protect her from witchcraft.
Palin is afraid of witches, thinks that humans and dinosaurs lived together Flintstones style, and believes that Alaska will be a refuge for the Left Behind after the Rapture.
Bachmann belongs to a church which says that the Pope is the antichrist.
Rick Perry says he believes that anyone who does not believe specifically in Jesus goes “straight to Hell with a non-stop ticket.”
All of them are global warming deniers, all want to teach creationism in schools and all think that homosexuality is evil.
Those are all far more crackpot beliefs than anything Romney believes, and they all want to legislate them. If Romney ever says he wants to force people to stop drinking coffee, I’ll get worried. For now, I see him as the sane alternative to a field of religious nutjobs.