Fjirst of all, I thank you and my sister the lesbian thanks all of you for supporting gay adoption.
Second, I use the term “anti-abortion” because it is the best description of the group’s view. They are definitely anti-abortion, no question about it whatsoever. They do not support abortion as a general rule.
You can be pro-choice and pro-life. You cannot be pro-choice and anti-abortion. Of course, some of the anti-abortion people think you cannot be pro-choice and pro-life, but that’s just them.
Absolutely nobody I’ve ever met is pro-abortion, but the anti’s use of the term makes me want to scream.
ETA: I read Cecil’s column, and his use of the term “he” for the fetus disgusts me. Are “she” fetuses somehow less deserving? I notice most anti-abortionists do use the term “he.”
Pro-choice, pro-adoption. I also believe “anti-abortion” should be the correct title. Pro-life assumes anyone who holds the opposite position is “anti-life.” That’s just ridiculous. Anti-abortion means just that: against abortions. It’s an accurate title. I’m with DianaG, if it bugs you, maybe you should take a second look at your position.
I don’t like abortion and I do consider it killing however I could never vote what most folks call “pro-life” or support most of the restrictions I hear being proposed. I’m not ever going to be 12 years old and facing a pregnancy after being raped by a family member and I damn well don’t want to put myself or my views into her life and decisions.
I support gay and lesbian adoption as well as single parent adoption.
I see what you did there with the poll options. Yes, you can control the tone of the debate by controlling the language used. How clever and original of you to figure that out.
I’ll do you one better, I’m anti-choice and I support gay and lesbian adoption.
Children do do better with a mother and father than with a single parent. Unlike some, I think that is due to having two(ideally) functional adults rearing them not something innate about one being male and the other being female. Any need for role models of the opposite sex can easily fulfilled by friends/relatives of the parents.
Any gay/lesbian couple that does not have someone who can easily and reliably serve as a role model of the opposite sex, IMHO, would be less than ideal… but still not irresponsible to choose to adopt as they would still be better than no adoption.
What “tone” is implied by use of the phrase “anti-abortion”? It means “in opposition to abortion”, which is a perfectly accurate descriptor. Now, it might be a bit fairer if the OP had described the other side as “anti-restriction of abortion”, but “anti-abortion” is not a pejorative term.
Really?
You’re really unaware that the generally accepted term is “pro-life”?
And you’re really unaware that, while accurate, “anti-abortion” can cast the position in a more negative light, especially when contrasted with a positive sounding term like “pro-life”
And you’re really unaware that for that very reason some activist types have been making noise about insisting on calling “pro-lifers” “anti-abortion”?
Until this very post I just typed you were really unaware of all those things?
I don’t have a dog in this as far as I can tell but I can give you a reason why. Anti-abortion (as a descriptive) assumes a voting choice, actions, or stance that may not be there. If push comes to shove, I can live with “Pro-life” but that is about as far as I am personally willing to go.
Um… if you don’t think that abortion should be illegal (in other words, if you think that people should have the choice), then you’re pro-choice. See how that works?
“Oh my god, they’ve got anti- in their name! They must be evil!”
I anxiously await the renaming of anti-terrorism programs. Oh, and the anti-gravity trope in science fiction. Perhaps they’ll become *pro-not-blowing-things-up *and pro-floating.
You also didn’t have a middle ground for those who are not sure about where the line should be on abortion. But if there were an option for me, I’d let gay/lesbian couples adopt.
I’m against abortions. I think that they take human life and I believe that it is morally wrong to take human life. I don’t think outlawing abortions is the best way to eliminate abortions occurring. In fact, I am against taking away the option of legal abortions because I believe it will lead to women having abortions with higher health risks attached to them.
I’m against abortions happening, but for availability of legal abortions.
Anti-abortion or pro-choice, I’m definitely pro-lesbian/gay adoptions.
This choice doesn’t really capture my feelings on the subject as I’m not militantly anti-gay abortion as it implies, but I’m not exactly gung-ho about it. Frankly I think it needs more study and consideration. I have no moral objections but we don’t understand the mechanisms of personality development and socialization well enough to think that a gay household is equal to a traditional one. In the same vein I’d be against single parent adoption for similar reasons, though single parents at least leave the possibility to become a male-female household.
As an adopted person I can’t help but consider how dramatically different my life would have been had I been adopted by a gay couple and I think the odds are very good that it would have be measurably worse.
The names “pro-life” and “anti-abortion” mean two very different things to me and to everyone else I know who describes themselves as pro-life.
The story recently of the 10 year old girl who had been raped and was now pregnant with twins is a perfect example of pro-life. She absolutely needed an abortion or she would have died. Her life needed to be saved.
A 28 year old who is pregnant for the 4th time and knows she’s going to have another abortion is a different story. If she keeps putting it off because she can’t get her shit together and, oops, now she’s 7 months along then no, I absolutely don’t support abortion for her.
Anti-abortion would treat both of those people the same: no abortions for any reason.
I also support the morning after pill and all abortions for the first month.
I wanted to add that I so strongly support gay adoption that it angers me that it’s still an issue.
My father died when I was four. My 2 younger sibs & I were raised by my mother & grandmother–who was also a widow. One uncle lived in town, until his career took him elsewhere. So I was raised by two women–het but mostly celibate. (My mother spent more time working & raising us than looking for hubbie #2.)
Should children in our situation be removed so we could be adopted by a “normal” couple?