These polls are becoming troll jobs on republicans. They know before they ask that these people will say anything. They know the thing can’t actually happen. They just want to run the headline. And so far the ignoramuses don’t seem to care!
What’s the point of asking these things to reality tv addicted idiots who will say anything.
It clearly wasn’t truly a tradition if it required a law to compel being followed. I always thought traditions were made of sterner stuff. In any case this doesn’t change myview that its a horrible rule so it doesn’t really change my comment above.
If a tradition was something that was never violated, we wouldn’t need laws at all. We could just rely on “traditions”. Perhaps you should re-watch Fiddler on the Roof. 
I consider Washington’s disagreement with your sentiment one of the great achievements in human history. To each his own.
Are there two different polls being cited here? I have read about the one where Pubbies want to postpone the next election until all the massive voter fraud has been dealt with. I think this highlights a point that many of us in the fearfully sane spectrum tend to overlook, which is that the batshit baboons really believe this stuff. It is part of their core mythology, that the vast majority of Americans are united with them. Hence, if follows that if they lose elections and/or the “popular vote”, it can only be the result of massive voter fraud.
Of course, this makes it a lot easier for them to accept the voting suppression acts. They might feel a twinge of regret, but ruefully accept the necessity of stern response. They see it as a regrettable but justifiable bit of “hardball”. And, of course, the important thing to remember is that both sides do it.
Personally I have become jaded by meaningless words like tradition. I’m tired of watching them be broken daily. It’s just a meaningless thought that people put out there to hook in the “true believers” that those with power break when it suits them and then others act SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELL YOU when the traditions are broken.
I have become quite cynical in this regard.
I guess I gave up when the tradition of allowing a president to fill any supreme court vacancies but the minute it was convenient to break it - bye bye tradition. It’s all bullshit.
I’m not even blaming one party here, it’s the human condition. I see it happening around me daily. I don’t believe almost anyone if any are immune to it. It’s how we’re put together and I’m not criticizing; I’m saying we need to be honest about our expectations and if a human comes out better doing something against tradition, they will inevitably do it.
Like I said before, it it was something that anyone thought really mattered, they had over a century and a half to do something about it. No one did. The reason the thing was a tradition was because neither side wanted to lock it down in case they wanted to be the one that broke it first. In Roosevelt’s case, the D’s broke it and in the supreme court case it was the R’s turn.
The cold hard reality is that if something is a tradition it’s NEVER really safe so why even try to think the term has meaning?
And if a tradition were something we cared about we could just make it a law.
I once saw Fiddler in a dinner show and honestly that show was the one that really introduced me to the magic of the stage and I enjoyed Tevye’s performance much better live than in the movie. It wasn’t just the performance though that was superb it was having it all happen so close to you really kicked the immersion into overdrive. Maybe I was too mesmerized by the performance to learn the “tradition” lesson but again, when push came to shove bye bye traditions. Traditions do make cool stories.
Sigh… Seems like only yesterday that left-leaning Dopers were fretting that Dubya was just about to cancel the elections and remain in office forever!
If you must entertain paranoid fantasies, come up with an original one. Please.
So it’s not disturbing to you that >50% republicans support getting rid of those pesky elections because someone, somewhere, at some point thought GWB might do it?
Can you walk us through your logic on that one?
Y’know…I don’t necessarily disagree that if you conduct a poll of the population (especially the American population) at any moment in history, about any subject, the results would shock the shit out of us. It doesn’t surprise me that 1/2 of Republicans said yes to the possibility of post-poning elections. The good news, if I recall my facts correctly, that maybe only 35% of the country is Republican. So that means that perhaps 17% of the country actually supports moving the elections based on that single poll. I’m not sure that this metric alone would worry me much.
But time and context matter, and right now, we’re living in era in which someone who made no effort to hide authoritarian impulses became president by receiving 46% of the vote. State differently, more than 60 million voters knowingly voted for an authoritarian. As I’ve said numerous times on other threads, polls don’t really mean that much, but votes do. And the poll that was taken on November the 8th said everything we need to know about the state of the country. And we’re not in a good state right now.
I first heard this about Nixon and I’m sure I would have heard about it earlier if I was older. I have never heard about the idea getting traction among the president’s supporters before and that’s a little different. I don’t think it necessarily mean that the situations are different but the world is different. We now live in a polling world without responsibility. People love to say provocative things when asked.
So the fear of elections being postponed or cancelled is equivalent to the desire to postpone or cancel elections?
Try again.
The paranoid fantasies are what’s equivalent.
Don’t bother trying again.
Regards,
Shodan
Can’t be said often enough, both sides do it. At any rate, some folks never get tired of saying it.
I’m still looking for the Universal Law that supposedly causes this to be true: That it is impossible for one group of people to act any better, or any worse, than another group of people-Therefore, if one group says and/or does something, it can be safely assumed that this forces the other group to say and/or do something equivalent.
Well elections come pretty close.
Depends on whether they are “rigged” or not, what with the massive voter fraud.
The Universal Law isn’t “both sides are equally bad”. The Universal Law is “your side is worse”.
Regards,
Shodan