POLL: What do you think happens after death?

I suspect this question doesn’t have an answer. That is, it isn’t merely that there is no possible way for us to determine the answer to “what happens to an individual after his or her death?”; I believe that this question literally doesn’t have an objective answer.

The reason for this is that, for a normal question about individual experiences, you can “point” to snapshots of the person in question before and after the experience and compare the versions of the person’s mental state to determine what changed. I believe that this is a necessary step in considering any event from the point of view of a given individual. When the event in question is death, and the individual in question is the one who dies, then there is no obvious way to pick a subsequent version of the individual to consider. If you point to the version of the individual which is in heaven, then of course the answer you will get is that he or she has gone to heaven. Same goes for hell, the Buddhist nirvana, or any other afterlife. If you point to a “null” individual who experiences nothing, then you will get the answer that individuals cease to exist upon death.

This means that, subjectively, a person who dies will experience absolutely anything whatsoever, including nonexistence, depending on who is imagining the outcome. I suspect that this will seem baffling and/or incoherent to most people, but it makes sense to me. FWIW, I consider myself atheist, strongly materialist, and a strong ontological relativist. Not believing in objective existence is a great aid in considering these matters.

I don’t know.

You may, but that’s a might big risk still - kind of like the one you thought we atheists were making.

Oh well, if any sort of hell exists, we can discuss it there.

My vote is for nothing. Lights out.

In my roughly 25 years of working in the health care field first as a nurse’s aide and then as an RN since 1991, I have lost count of how many deaths I have seen. Not only dead bodies but actually witnessing the moment of death.

From what I can see, one instant something is there and then it is not. I have never seen anything that indicates that the nearly deceased is seeing angels or devils or anything else. I have never heard a death bed confession or redemption.

I would like to think that the body returns to the earth and the soul is recycled in some way. I really really would but so far I have not seen ONE SINGLE THING TO make me believe that is true.

So I guess one nurse’s vote is “nothing”

One more for reincarnation!!

I couldn’t have said it better.

I want more people to answer the poll… go tell more people who haven’t answered to come here… thanks to everyone who has responded so far! [sub](i have yet to hear from Libertarian, Mangetout or Polycarp)…


Standings:
Nothing———————————————47
Reunite with Ancestors———————1
Reincarnation————————————4
Heaven / Hell ———————————–5
Enlightenment———————————–2
Meet Cecil——————————————1
No Way to know——————————–4
None of my business————————-1
Spirit Lives on…(nothing else?)———2
Go to where we were before birth—-1
Reside in halls of Mandos…—————1

Since so many of the answers are based on experience, I’ll contribute mine.

I have encountered what I will call “spirits,” though exactly what a spirit is, I am unsure. In several instances these things were similar to living humans, except without a body. Consequently, communication has been more along the line of ‘thought transference,’ and seems to be facilitated by the Alpha brain frequency (i.e., if you can consciously generate the alpha brain wave and remain conscious, like in meditation, your chances at communication are improved). In those cases a ‘personality’ or ‘non-physical consciousness’ seems to be present in a parallel to this physical world. The ‘spirits’ there seem to be lost and/or bored, and often seem tied to a physical place. This is where our concept of ghosts and hauntings comes from; after a few decades of boredom you find out you can scare people, give them nightmares, etc., FUN!

Based on this, I’ll say that when we die, some part of us, with some sort of consciousness, continues on.

But then why isn’t everywhere saturated with ghosts? Read on…

Not everyone who dies stays behind in Earth parallel wandering and confused. I have worked with people who have ‘spirits’ as helpers for them, to get them information otherwise unobtainable. These are also formerly living pesons with self-consciousness, but they have agreed to work with those mediums for some reason (yet undetermined). In my experience their information is not always accurate. They can be perceived as free-standing fields of energy.

Some of the lost spirits I have encountered have been persuaded to leave where they are. This is helpful in eliminating hauntings, but I’m not sure I’m doing the ‘right thing.’ I tell them to look around for a source of white light (not the sun) and to go to it. When they do, they do not return. I have personal leanings toward the idea of the “absolute singularity” as proffered by Zoe, but - well, we’ll get to that later. I imagine that when we die some are confused and wait for their experience to direct them, others are directed by beliefs they held before death, and move onward, thus not becoming ‘ghosts.’

I have been visited by people who were formerly alive. They have retained the non-physical aspects of life (consciousness, personality) and they know they are no longer physically alive. Usually they find me, and frankly, some that I have expected would come back, haven’t. Those who have visited me have told me things about the ‘afterlife’ or have told me things about the nature of reality, but I seem to be a kid who is flunking “Spirituality 101,” 'cause I am unable to adequately put these concepts on paper, or even explain them to others. It’s like we don’t have the right words in English to describe it.

I can kinda point at it, though. To wit:

There is an existance of a non-physical (spiritual, or energetic) nature. We, or at least some part of each of us, is extant in this ‘dimension’ (existance, place, whatever). One spirit that talked with me made allusions to a unity among and within spirits, but simultaneously directed that there was a separateness within that unity. Sounds paradoxical, but it made sense when he said it.

When we die, our body ceases functioning, but our essence continues on. We can be undirected, get lost, and become a haunt, or we can create our own fantasy, like heaven or hell or purgatory, that is real enough for us to believe in and stay there. There’s probably thousands of other things we entities can do as well, like reincarnation, but there is another place/dimension/creation where some sort of enlightenment is restored. I say restored, because we originally come from there. What goes on there, I don’t know, and why people come back from there to communicate with us mortals is beyond me. I was also not told (and was too awed to ask) whether ‘spirits’ are eternal. I was told, though, that God is not seperate from us.

…V

Peat moss.

Not food for the worms, that’s for sure. Unless worms eat ashes.

Nothing happens. I’m dead. You know, like when you step on an ant? It’s dead. No ant-spirit left.

When discussing this with others who believe (I’m an thiest), I say, “If you’re right (about an afterlife), we’ll all know. If I’m right, no one will know.”

Long dead threads get reincarnated. :smiley:

Right before death, my brain will inject enough Fun Stuff for me to see the Bright Light, the Tunnel and then experience the eternal High.

Indeed - the world is perfect. Mother Nature made me and to Mother Nature I will return. I hope I’ll be a good fertilizer.

I don’t know about people, But when threads are dead for over a year on the SDMB, they stay dead. Please do not revive long-dormant threads again, Snakespirit.

Reburial.