Poorly-aged films that could use a "woke" (for lack of a better choice of words) remake

A true exchange I had at age 30: I had been told by a friend of a woman who worked in a different department that she was hoping I’d ask her out. I thought she was attractive and fun to talk to, so I asked her out. She said, “I don’t know.” I figured that was that. The mutual friend asked me if I’d called her up, so I told him that I did and she didn’t really seem that interested. Later he tells me “she wants to be pursued.” That really was that. Less than a week later I met my future mate.

I disagree, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie.

I don’t think it’s too bad for a students from a school that has more women than men to be invited to a party at a school where there are more men than women.

That’s why I liked The Bad News Bears when it first came out.

I’m a single 44 y/o. It’s not easy for me to find women who don’t want (or think they want, IDK) aggression (consensual) …

Not every instance has to do with this, and as long as no one is harmed, there’s nothing wrong with that stuff, but i suspect that a lot of (not. all, and can be reversed roles, tho probably not as socially acceptable) it is just Patriarchy, and being conditioned. IDK, not a Sociologist or Psychologist. All I know is, I’m NOT into that.

I don’t think it’s patriarchy. I don’t really have a reason for that other than I’m into it (fantasy-wise) and I’m super feminist. I think the idea that sexual submission is at odds with feminism misunderstands what sexual submission is. In an ethical D/s scenario, subs have a lot of power. They also have a lot of trust in their partner. And it’s that trust piece that I find particularly so compelling. So I would say that there are scenarios where it could be totally toxic but for a lot of people it’s not at all, it can be really intimate and loving.

Which is maybe why I’m fine with letting fantasy be fantasy. I think what you see in media is reflective of cultural norms and while I’m sure it can reinforce those norms, it’s really changes in society that changes the kinds of things you see in artistic expression.

I appreciate your input. I truly don’t know enough about such things to talk about it intelligently. It was just my WAG, (which is why I added a lot of qualifying language in it). I think I at least understand the separation, I simply can’t get there in my head. That may be my own limitations. I don’t think I’d like it regardless, but I can tell you, I simply like the expression of…. ‘sweet’ and ‘cute’.

My husband is like that, very tender and loving. And that is a perfectly wonderful way to be.

Kick ass.

I’m actually curious about something, but concerned about derailing the thread. May I message you? Only if your down. Not anyone’s job to eduate me, but would love to learn more about these things.

Your husband sounds cool, and there’s a deficiency of cool dudes.

My husband is amazing.

Sure, feel free to PM me!

As someone has mention non-Asian Micky Rooney playing an Asian, the same could be said about Tony Randall in “The Seven Faces of Doctor Lao”. And, as a bonus, the effects tech available now would blow the original away.

I knew myself well enough at that point to not be pulled into a “pursuit” game. In my teens and early twenties I was awkward to the point that I scared off girls/young women. I can’t read signals, so it could have resulted in both of us being very uncomfortable. My earlier attempts at “pursuit” did not work out well, and I wasn’t about to repeat those mistakes. Whether it works for others isn’t for me to judge.

That got a chuckle out of me.

Seth McFarlane’s “A Million Ways to Die in the West”. It has its moments, but it did prove the old adage, that you couldn’t make Blazing Saddles today.

California, where the movie takes place, apparently is not one of those states. So Mitch and Jordan in that scenario just statutorily raped each other.

That isn’t bad at all, but I mean those women are included in the movie just to be sexualized. They are there so the movie can have some shots of attractive women in bikinis. Like you said, the nerds have their own personalities, but the beauticians are just window dressing for the audience and the nerds. And like Chris says, the party is their only chance in their lives to get laid. So that’s all the beauticians amount to in the movie.

Breakfast at Tiffanie’s could easily be remade. Just follow the novella more closely. I don’t remember the Japanese character being that important so he can be cut or have an appropriate actor in the role. Get rid of the romance and use the much more complex relationship between the main characters. I don’t know if audiences would like the downer of an ending.

I am not sure about ‘doomed to failure’ but I will agree something which is hard to do and rare to have done successfully- if ever. (Okay, Angels in the Outfield has been redone, and not badly,)

If he isnt in prison first,

Here I disagree, I mean we arent sure really who “Dr Lao” really is- maybe he really is Apollonius or Merlin who just makes himself look Chinese for the 1800s audience? The Book is great and the film keeps closer to the book that many other films do.

I was thinking about Finian’s Rainbow yesterday, which has undergone a transformation from “film that was controversial for being anti-racist” to “film that is controversial for being racist”. The plot has a very strong anti-racism theme, but it involves one of the main characters being in blackface for much of the film. It’s a bit cringe now, as the kids say.

The thing about DR. Lao is that a lot of the characterization – Tony Randall’s Dr. Lao switching from pidjin to cultured sophisticated English – is in Finney’s original novel, as well.

A remake, with a person o Asian ancestry in the title role, would be interesting, especially if they didn’t use Charles Beaumont’s script (which took the episodic story and made a regular story line out of it). I admit that Jim Danforth’s effects work definitely shows its age, and we can do better, although I don’t criticize him for it – he did the best he coul with what he had.

I would DEFINITELY do away with George Pal’s repurposing of the destruction of Atlantis from his Atlantis, the Lost Continent as the Destruction of Woldercan.

And in these more liberated times you could put things in the movie you couldn’t get away with in the 1960s.

“Breakfast at Tiffanys” came to mind right away. Could those scenes be removed but keep the storyline intact? I haven’t seen this in at least 60 years, and then only once, so I don’t recall how integral to the plot the scenes involving Rooney’s character might be.