You are correct. But Shodan was onto something. Why not just beam down a shitload of bricks or someother building material. So they duplicate, does that mean you can’t build a shelter with them? Or beam down tons of blankets. Same thing, who cares if they duplicate? Just get out of the wind!
Are you mad? Shelters built out of the Evil Bricks would fall on you, and Evil Blankets would strangle you. And the Good Bricks and Good Blankets would be too wimpy to help you!
Presumably, an explanation could be given based on Conservation of Energy.
If the transporter is really a duplicator, it creates a duplicate being at another location. That’s a huge amount of energy needed. Assuming a being with a mass of 180 pounds (82kg), the energy needed is incredible (e=mc^2, even in Star Trek). So if it’s a duplicator, where would this energy come from?
But if it’s strictly a transporter, than you could make the claim that the energy comes from the original being; their mass is converted into energy, then that energy is broadcast across space along with the control information containing the exact patterns of that being, and then the receiver converts that energy back into the mass of the being, following that pattern info.
(This still seems beyond several laws of current physics. For example, the amount of energy transmitted, in the few seconds the transporter takes – that transmitter would be blazing way more than the local sun for that time! But it does at least pay lip service to one of the major laws of physics.)
And you might still slip the ‘resurrection’ trick in with this explanation: use the dead body (assuming it’s available and still roughly the same mass (no significant decay yet)) for the transporter energy, but use the pattern info from a previous transporter trip to reconstruct the original, living body. But that assumes the transporter pattern information is saved in memory somewhere. And that would be a very large file to keep somewhere. Could Starfleet afford to do this on a regular basis?
I read recently that Prince Harry made noise about not abandoning his men if they were sent to Afghanistan. The prevailing opinion from “knowing Army sources” was that it didn’t matter how much he complained, he wasn’t going, for the reasons stated above. His presence would escelate attacks, and God forbid he be captured or killed.
One of the stupid sci-fi “inventions” I really :rolleyes: at is the meal-in-a-pill.
“Mmmm… That’s one great meal! I’m sure glad we invented pills instead of just using the food that provided the nutrients for them in the first place. Too bad we have to take a dozen of these horse pills each meal to get enough nutrients and roughage, though. And I’m still hungry. They don’t have enough volume for my human stomach.”
They’re presumably like pemmican. “If you’re still hungry, drink some water. It’ll expand in your stomache.”
Also, if you watch the 5th Element, you know that the pills will expand if microwaved for about 2 seconds.
Most of them were new, but some of them were those original swords from the 13th century. Those were the heirlooms Raguleader was talking about.
Most of them were new, but some of them were those original swords from the 13th century. Those were the heirlooms Raguleader was talking about.
So, just how good were the mass-produced versions? I mean, it’s possible they could have been made to acceptable battlefield standards, but then, “Made In Japan” wasn’t exactly the mark of quality workmanship back then that it is now.
One of the stupid sci-fi “inventions” I really :rolleyes: at is the meal-in-a-pill…
Isn’t the US military working on a combat ration that fits an entire days worth of nutrients into something the size of a deck of cards? The military would be one the few markets for a food pill.
Yeah, but transporters/replicators totally break the ST universe. I mean, with a transporter/replicator you can do anything. Make anything, make anyONE. Duplicate people, edit people, merge people, store people, age them, reverse age them, cure any disease, fix any injury. You don’t need to build Starships, you just build a big replicator and replicate starships. Oh, replicators are too expensive? Just replicate more replicators. And if you’re replicating a starship, why bother training a new crew? Just replicate the starship with the crew already in place. Replicators solve every economic problem, eliminate scarcity. No wonder the Federation has “evolved beyond the primitive concept of money”. What do you need money for when you can get anything you need out of a replicator?
Fred Pohl had a set of stories where transporters existed…except he didn’t see the need to kill the person on the sending end just because you’ve created a duplicate of them on the recieving end. All interstellar travel was done by replicator. An unmanned probe would travel to a new system, turn on the replication system, and duplicates could be sent to the new system. But of course, there’s no way to travel back home except by sending a duplicate of yourself back and killing yourself. Not many volunteers for this.
There was also Damon Knight’s The People Maker (expanded and reprinted as A For Anything.) I tend to agree with reviews that say while the premise was good, the execution was flawed. And it’s really dark, like a lot of Knight’s writing. I gotta say, the Gismo (well, really what Knight thinks will happen after the introduction of the Gismo) is poorly conceived.
So, just how good were the mass-produced versions? I mean, it’s possible they could have been made to acceptable battlefield standards, but then, “Made In Japan” wasn’t exactly the mark of quality workmanship back then that it is now.
Ah, but when it comes to sword making, the Japanese were pretty much always top notch. An uncle of mine had a Japanese sword he picked up after the war (IIRC, he was part of the first occupation forces) that according to him had been reworked to enable it to fit in the cockpit of a plane (it dated, I think, originally from the 1600s) and you couldn’t tell that anything had been done to it. Sadly, instead of giving it to me, he sold it at a garage sale for a mere $300. 
So, just how good were the mass-produced versions? I mean, it’s possible they could have been made to acceptable battlefield standards, but then, “Made In Japan” wasn’t exactly the mark of quality workmanship back then that it is now.
About 2 months ago I examined one that my friend’s dad brought back from his time on Okinawa, he obtained it “the hard way” as he put it. :eek: Anyway, it was beautiful. The quality was quite evident. Odd, the tsuba was much smaller than I expected.
Odd, the tsuba was much smaller than I expected.
Maybe it was actually a Bsaritone? 
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So, just how good were the mass-produced versions? I mean, it’s possible they could have been made to acceptable battlefield standards, but then, “Made In Japan” wasn’t exactly the mark of quality workmanship back then that it is now.
Usually, no where near the standards of earlier swords, and occasionally quite poor. The Internet meme that all katana are fabulously forged, high-quality swords turns out to be not accurate. Go figure. This is not surprising, since the shin-gunto were being made during WWII – when the Japanese military had better things to spend their time and steel on than superior-quality swords.
As explained here:
Shin-gunto swords were designed to reverse this theme of European imitation in the 1930’s. The Shin-gunto sword was basically a factory made effort to give a rebirth to the traditional katana blade. It was the standard for Imperial officers by 1934. Unlike the more famous folded steel Japanese blades, swords made at the opening of World War 2 were mass produced and quality was far from what the Tokugawa warriors carried into battle. The scabbard more often than not was simply painted brown or navy blue, or left with a steel finish. Hilts were cast and an effort was made to make them ‘look’ like the old samurai swords of their grandfathers. By 1945, there were numerous “desperation” ends of war varieties of shin-gunto being produced both in Japan and in the areas of Japanese occupation such as Korea and Formosa. These swords are of the poorest mechanical quality being made by unskilled often impressed laborers from scrap and salvaged materials. These swords were given freely to Kamikaze volunteers and new officers headed to certain death on remote island garrisons. While in the history of western warfare it was accepted common practice to allow surrendered officers to keep their swords, very few captured Japanese were granted this privilege of the battlefield and thousands of these weapons found themselves stuffed in the duffle bags of allied soldiers returning home at the end of the war…
I suppose the über-katana with its magical abilities to, say, deflect bullets or cut through machine guns or tanks would qualify as “poorly conceived movie technology.”
Maybe it was actually a Bsaritone?
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Well played, sir.