Well, part of my point is that a passport is both proof of citizenship and proof of identity, and it’s possible it will be easier to get a passport, first, and then use it to get real iD. It certainly used to be the case that one valid form of proof that “this person standing here is person who was issued this birth certificate” was a witness willing to state under oath that that is, in fact, the case.
Nope - you didn’t need a SS number for dependents on your tax return until the 80s or 90s. Before that, you applied when you needed the number , say to open a bank account or to get a job.
Right – I didn’t have one until I needed one to sign up for high-school football in the late 1980s. My dad took me to the local Social Security Administration offices with the requisite documents (surely a birth certificate?) and I got the card. I think it was mailed to me.
No, no … I was just agreeing with you that Czarcasm needs an expert’s** help here. Because his case is not the usual, everyday case. “Exception” in the sense of “not one of the typical easy cases”.
** and that hopefully, the person sitting across from him at the DMV is one of their rock-star ‘experts’ who knows how to get things done in the system.
And not, it is to be fervently hoped, one of the obstructive class of bureaucrat that will look at the discrepancy and simply “nope” out of the process, insisting (without any proffering any useful advice or guidance) that @Czarcasm has to settle this difference in documentation themselves before presenting themselves again to the DMV’s glorious premises.
I suspect this is the worst case @Czarcasm is worried about, but I don’t see any solid advice to be offered here.
Here’s a decent potted history of SSNs for dependents on tax returns. It came into effect for tax year 1987, meaning a LOT of SSns got issued in 1986. And a LOT of duplicate or completely imaginary kids disappeared. Probably a bunch of oldsters too but not quite as many.
I was 28 by then, and like others above did not get my SSN until I was about to get my first job as a 15yo.
The problem is when two or more official documents have different names. If he shows up with a birth certificate with one name, and his driver’s license has another, there’s a definite risk the state will then say “OK, show us the document when your legal name changed”. If you can’t, they’ll give you a RealID in the name on the birth certificate, but not the name the OP has been using all this time.
Thanks; would a veteran have a “uniformed services ID” or “privilege card”? And if not, surely the current driver’s license qualifies as proof of legal name?
Not anymore. Not for RealID purposes. Any change from the name on the birth certificate will require documentation of change, that is, something like a marriage license or court-ordered name change or adoption or the like.
Have you considered reaching out to your congressional rep for help? You have an unusual and complicated situation, and you are dealing with the federal government’s requirements, even if the ID will be issued by your state. Your rep might be able to help – they hire offices full of people to help consituents. Your state rep might also be able to help.
Except the Oregon DMV page says that part of the process is to call up your data from SSA which needs to match the name used on the primary document.
Or someone opening a bank account. I got my SSN when I opened a bank account to deposit my confirmation gifts. I don’t think I even showed them a birth certificate since they let me use my confirmation name as my middle name instead of the name on the birth certificate (discussed in a thread a few months ago describing my successful effort to get the middle name on my SSA record corrected).
I can’t wait to see how the DMV reacts to a birth certificate from Guam. “Wait, your not a US Citizen, you’re a Guameranian!”