Gotcher heart on your sleeve there, don’t you, Kiffy? You completely misconstrued the remark, and I think if anyone was a victim of anything here, AerynSun was more a victim of slander. If the remark was by any means non-PC, it was sexist. I don’t know where in the f**k the racist comment came from. Does the term non sequitur mean anything to you?
I am coming off a bit harsh, and I apologize, Kiffy. I understand that racism affects you every day of your life – something that I probably couldn’t understand. (I know – “you could never understand!” and, to a degree, you are correct.) But, please, while you are on the web, understand that you are going to encounter all kinds of things that you can convolute into being a direct attack on you, but, in time, you’ll learn that they’re not. If you do encounter blatant racism, don’t worry – the offender’s tail will get royally reamed – it’s not tolerated here, and it’s not a common occurrence.
And, sweetcan, if you think Mjollnir’s comment was “blatantly racist”, then you ::M.P. pulls hands from keyboard::
IMHO, you are incorrect. A couple of puffs off of said crack pipe may make someone delusional enough to misconstrue it as such, but blatant it was not.
btw, I believe Rysdad’s statement is probably the correct answer to the OP.
If I may offer my two cents’ worth to this emerging brouhaha…
I have personally not seen the pacifier thing, but from the way that the posters following the OP (which I took to be nothing more than a curious observation, and not an attempt at racist stereotyping) phrased their comments, they had seen this happening, and associated it with the more lower-income, “ghetto” segment of African-American society. It is an unfortunate fact that a number of black people are poor, and that a number of poor people smoke crack. It did not seem to me that they had seen the phrase “African-American” and thought “crack-smoker”. Calling people Nazis based on this is as uncalled for as making the assumptions Lil’ Kiffy appears to have made in the first place. I would also like to add that we’re a pretty diverse lot here. We have people of virtually all races, religions, political persuasions, sexual orientations, and economic groups represented here in one form or another. Sometimes, a little friction can result. Take it from me, the one thing you can not afford to have if you want to have any respect here is a short fuse. If I got angry every time I saw an implication that made me uncomfortable, I probably would have alienated everyone here by now. Calling people trolls and Nazis will only dig you in deeper. Now, that being said, I do think there is some cause for offense in some of the statements made, but no need to blow it all out of proportion. And in closing:
the rave community has been using pacifiers for a long time. it’s not really a fad, it just goes along with the E (or so my friends say).
as for black, hispanic, and whatever other non-rave communities that suck on pacifiers, it’s a fashion thing.
i do admit, however, i think that i kept on teething all the way till i was 12 or 13, because i loved to chew on things. pacifiers were one of the better ways to alleviate this.
I don’t doubt what you say, but you’ve obviously got your antennae up for “racist” remarks, which I don’t think was this case, this time… so lighten up…
What Grendel said is correct - it is a “Rave” community thing, and it is very associated with Ecstasy use. Allegedly, it is supposed to signify one of three things:
“I use E”
“I give head”
“I’ll give you head if you give me some E”
An acquaintance who does use E says that when she comes down, she feels like she always wants to have “something in her mouth”, and she says gum doesn’t cut it. She found she was sucking her thumb and fingers again (at age 19) so a friend turned her on to the pacifier craze, and there she goes.
Men seem to find it very erotic - perhaps for them it combines the obvious oral symbolism with the effect of making the suckee appear more like a pre-pubescent girl.
I imagine a poster of Britney Spears sucking on a pacifier would sell like 5-cent crack hits. The day after it’s release a new health warning of the dangers of “Sudden Wood Syndrome” would be reported as “paralyzing the Nation”. So to speak.
To clarify, yes, my handle comes from Farscape. I have no affiliation or sympathy toward any racist group. I don’t discriminate against people on the basis of race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, etc. I think groups like Aryan Nation are a bunch of ignorant hatemongers who are so insecure they have to believe there are people who are automatically “inferior” to them.
My comment was merely an attempt at humor, meaning approximately, “Any putz who follows a trend like this is obviously such a loser that women would shun him.”
Again, thanks everyone for seeing my comment for what it was - just a dumb joke - and trying to explain the situation.
To add to the OP, i have seen african americans in my community do this about 2-3 years ago, it didn’t last too long. I don’t think we have a rave community, who knows.
Since I seem to be able to inflame the mods of the board quite a bit lately, I’ll ignore the Racist comments above.
I have a question that goes with the OP.
Back in the day, they used to keep the tags on their hats. Now, they keep the stickers on their new Jeans!(FWIW, I always thought dorks were the only ones who forgot to take the “inseam sticker” off their friggin pants). Why? That’s all I wanna know. Why?
If it matters at all, the answer I got from the kid I saw with this was “that’s how we do it in the projects”. Not that California, Bay area to be exact, has ANY projects, but you know…
And as far as Hairnets go, the fad has passed around here, BUT it seems to be “cool” to steal one of mamma’s old knee-highs and knot it up a few times and throw it on your head. Blech.
Digression, no hijack intended - it bugs me when my pre-teen kids have CANDY shaped like pacifiers (like lollypops). Personally haven’t seen anyone over a couple years old sucking on the real thing.
When I was younger, a friend of mine was always in the ‘in’ crowd. He once, and only once, tried to start a fad. His fad was, and I’m not making this up, to attach a clothespins to the brim of your cap. He tried to get the ball rolling. He put one on his own and strutted around like it was the coolest damn thing in the world. Two weeks later, everyone in school was doing it. Some even “personally stylized” their clothes pin by writing their name on it, some weird design, or their graffiti tag.
Two weeks after that, it was over. No one would even admit to ever having done it. I never before felt so damn cool to be in the ‘out’ crowd.
The kids leave the tags on their hats and jeans because they’re trying to emulate Minnie Pearl, the most popular comedian in human history for the 13-17 age bracket.
(please tell me I don’t need to caption this for the humor-impaired)
