Was Veb’s original post made in moderator mode, or just poster mode? I assumed it was the latter, since there was not “monderator mode” notation made. I read it as a attempt by a poster to forestall a “don’t hijack my thread” pissing contest between **Lib **abd Binary, who obviously have a lot of bad blood between them.
Jesus fucking christ, I came in here to post about Bush (whom I think is a lunkhead, but who I figure is entitled to some vacation whether there is a war on or not) and soldier vacations (I know of one coming home from Iraq for 15 days, which ain’t one-fifth of five weeks).
Instead the topic is now trolling, reports of trolling, the revealment of reports of trolling, the timing of the revealment of reports about trolling, the significance of the use of quotation marks around the word ‘trolling’ . . .
How’s a girl supposed to get a rant in under these conditions? :mad:
I’d say that you just did. 
It looks like Liberal even hijacks his own threads. 
Well, of course. No one in this thread has mentioned trolling but moi, n’est-ce pas? :dubious:
In an attempt to get this pitting back on the topic of Bush’s vacation, I’ll toss out this chunk of meat:
Fallen Iraq Vet’s Mom Threatened With Arrest At Crawford
Support the troops – and arrest their moms…
Oh, dear God. It puts things in perspective, doesn’t it. Our petty squabbles against people putting their lives and their liberty on the line. This is without question the most tyrannical administration of modern times. And I include Roosevelt in that.
In other words, you saw that a post met with certain conditions that could be viewed (based on an earlier post by Skip) as trolling and reported it and Veb saw the same post, meeting the same conditions, and told the poster not to repeat it, then posted a pre-emptive statement so that you would not continue that discussion, and you cannot figure any way for her to have come up with the word “trolling” in her post to you?
You can come to any conclusions you’d like and hold any positions you choose, but the person who posted the information that led to a public accusation that a Mod revealed a Report was you.
Nothing in her post indicates to any other reader that you had submitted a Report.
You did not e-mail Veb and ask why she had (from your perspective) violated that trust. You simply declared that she had violated it, giving everyone who read this thread the impression that she had revealed your Report.
Wow. If true, that can’t be a good P.R. move for the administration.
One of the comments on the page makes a good point:
Ummm…can’t agree with this, Tom. I certainly read it that way.
Your inference is not her implication.
That’s because it seemed that way to me, just as it has to others. Also, you don’t know what I did or did not do by e-mail, and at this point, that’s all I’ll say about that. As I said, it all seems too serendipitous — the long-delayed timing coincidence, the exact same post that was reported coincidence, the exact word in quotes coincidence, the “us” reference, the unnecessary pre-emptive intervention coincidence. It is the totality of the circumstance that makes an innocuous mistake seem unlikely. But Veb is addressing it here, so I asked her here to explain how it unfolded for her. If she says it was all just a confluence of unfortunate coincidences, I’ll be fine with that. But speaking for myself, I would at the very least regret that it happened. Especially since it was accompanied by such excited kachinging.
This whole conversation and the accompanying accusations and counter-accusations are getting way too fucking complicated. Just call each other goose-fucking kitten-eaters and get over it, already.
C’mon Tom. You know the quote in question. Several posters have commented on it. While the implication may have been inadvertant, it was certainly there. It is unseemly to pretend otherwise.
Lib, it appears we have a “circling of the wagons” going on here with Tom and Veb. Which means you ain’t gonna get jack out of this. My suggestion: Walk away. Ask for the thread to be closed. I don’t see anything good coming from further participation. Of course, this is just MHO. Standard disclaimers apply.
What? Come on, man. You said:
“Nothing in her post indicates to any other reader that you had submitted a Report.”
I said:
“I certainly read it that way.”
In fact, even you called it “preemptive”.
I didn’t make my read up out of thin air. I’ve got no dog in this hunt.
Let me state now that I have no reason whatsoever to think that TVeblen is lying during her further explanation of what happened, but given the chain of events, it shouldn’t be surprising that at least some of us thought she was outing Lib.
Nice, Ponder.
You’re probably right. And I honestly don’t blame them. I’ve been a mod at a large-ish board, and there are political consequences to breaking ranks even for a good cause. Not that Tom doesn’t sincerely believe that Veb meant no harm. But hell, given the recent post by Rjung, this is all just piddly shit anyway.
I don’t recall a thread ever being closed when I requested it, but let’s give it a go.
Would a mod please close the thread? We can pit Bush some other time.
Well…I don’t agree with Lib much, and certainly on his OP (which I think is just the usual bypass-brain-to-keyboard Bush=Bad stuff), but I read through the thread and I gotta say, it certainly looks like Veb screwed up on this one.
That said, Lib, as much as I think you we’re probably wronged here, I think Ponder Stibbons has the best advice: Move on.
Disregarding whether or not I agree with Liberal on this topic, I have to say this OP is much better than Reeder’s. With Reeder, it would’ve been:
“SHRUB is taking a VACATion!!! VacationS r BAD!”
But just for the record, I tend to agree with Lib on this point. Even if he’s taking a working vacation, it still looks pretty bad.