Boris Johnson heads to UN, urging world to see beyond Brexit
How much longer can he get by with “trust me” while doing nothing?
40 days, max.
Johnson says he’ll tell Trump: Hands off UK health service
Johnson also continues to push his “I’m making progress” lie:
:rolleyes:
That’s his tell, I suppose: saying “I think” before he tells a lie, thus avoiding making any factual claims.
From the BBC:
The question of the day is whether Johnson will be keeping his hands off the women he’s travelling with.
The Supreme Court has ruled the prorogation unlawful. “Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all eleven justices.”
Edit: Link to an article.
Bump.
The UK Supreme Court has just ruled Boris Johnson’s prorogation of Parliament was illegal.
330 years of precedent. Hit for a huge six. :eek:.
Nobody was expecting a unanimous verdict. That gives it a huge amount of force.
Bercow says he will reconvene parliament urgently.
Summary of judgment [PDF]
Full judgment [PDF]
From the summary -
This is astonishing, and appears to be a major change to the powers of the Monarch and the PM. Whilst strengthening the powers of Parliament is not a bad thing, of course, it’s a major thing that will have serious consequences for years to come.
I can’t see how Boris can stay on as PM now, but what then? Parliament has shown it doesn’t want an election, and one can’t now be held before Oct 31st anyway, and I’m not sure if there’s anyone in the House who could command a stable majority to deal with Brexit.
Plus, of course, this gives more ammunition for the Tories in the next election (whenever it is) to claim that democracy is being thwarted by activist courts, and that wil play well with some people.
Time to read the full judgement.
On the contrary, it upholds centuries of legal and constitutional precedent. Read the judgment.
Christ, everytime I think WE’RE wack.
I got no idea what this means in the near term, but I’m willing to bet it’ll be confused and unclear.
I don’t see that anything has changed. Parliamentary supremacy established since 1689 has been upheld.
The PM is, and always has been, subordinate to parliament and answerable to parliament. The Queen acts only on the advice of the PM.
Johnson’s attempt to establish a presidential-style government and make parliament subordinate to the executive has been thwarted. His attempt to close down parliamentary debate and act like a tin-pot dictator has failed.
The traditional British constitution has prevailed.
I LOVED the spider on Lady Hale’s dress, by the way!
It clearly hasn’t, because 3 centuries of precedent have been ignored in reaching a judgement based on (as the judgement makes clear at the very beginning) “circumstances which have never arisen before and are unlikely ever to arise again”.
This decison, rightly or wrongly, significantly curtails the power of the Monarch as exercised by the PM. That’s a huge constitutional change, unless you want to claim that all prior prorogations that were longer than this, or done for political purposes, were in fact illegal. They, of course, weren’t - it was a rarely used but accepted tool of Governemnt.
What we now have, especially when combined with the Fixed Term Parliament Act, is a system where the means to remove a dysfunctional Parliament are seriously weakened. That may well be considered a good thing by those who think democracy is an end in itself rather than a means to good governance, but I think the shift in balance will have major unforseen unintended consequences.
All that said, in the short term Parliament returning will hopefully be a good thing, and could possibly lead to some sort of resolution to Brexit.
There are two answers to that. One is “no”; the other is “fuck no”.
“Parliament” consists of the Commons, Lords and the Sovereign. Parliament has attempted to execute a recognized procedure. And has been told “nyet”. How the hell is it “traditional”,”?
If the circumstances “have never arisen before and are unlikely ever to arise again”, then how can you possibly say there have been 3 centuries of precedent? :dubious:
3 centuries of principle have been upheld.
No, it does not in the least. Please explain how exactly you think the power of the monarch has been curtailed.
Um… you seem to be confused.
Sovereign parliament did NOT attempt to execute a recognized procedure. On the contrary, the sovereign parliament strongly OPPOSED the prorogation at this time.
A PM with delusions of grandeur thought he could override the will of a sovereign parliament and ignore it. He was wrong.
Jeremy Corbyn has not disappointed in his continuing ability to take what could be a major political victory and turn it into a cup of weak tea:
Wow. The Leader of the Opposition, pulling no punches there.
Where I’d like to be a fly on the wall would be the next meeting betwixt Her Majesty and Boris. That’s going to be an awkward conversation.