I was originally responding to a post saying that a Labour government after an election was the only way to avoid Brexit, and Corbyn is, in my opinion, not going to do that.
As for a Unity government, the question is whether he’s trusted to actually give up power when he gets it. He’s shown repeatedly that he’s untrustworthy in Parliament, having voted against his party a huge amount of times. Why trust this power-hungry Brexiteer any more than the current one?
What is needed, if and when Brexit is avoided, is for the Labour party to collapse along with the Tories, leaving the extremists nominally running the parties whilst moderates and centrists get on with actually running the country. I’m not particularly hopeful it will happen, but if the Lib Dems actually manage a decent showing at an election it’s at least possible.
Keeping no deal on the table will be as good a negotiating lever for Swinson with Labour as it was for Johnson with the EU.
Swinson might also threaten to back Johnson’s deal when it emerges. As Steophan observes, that might not be much of a lever with Corbyn either. Particularly given her own party’s Brexit policy.
Thank you for clarifying this remark. Now that I understand it, I think it is of minor significance. The MPs for whom Corbyn is the only sticking point have no influence or negotiating power. In a few days, they will have to choose between supporting Corbyn in a general election after supporting his policy in an interim government, or backing no deal.
Given that all these people have staked their political careers and reputations on opposing no deal by any means necessary, it is going to be odd for them not to support Corbyn.
Some small fraction of them will prefer to support Johnson’s renegotiated withdrawal agreement. There is media comment that such a deal is more likely to emerge than previously, but it still seems (very?) unlikely.
I suppose some of them might just be waiting for a miracle. That following an extension to the A50 period either Corbyn or Johnson loses their position, opening up other alternatives?
Plus, AIUI, Churchill’s postwar idea of a united Europe didn’t include the UK, which (as he saw it) belonged at the top table with the USA and USSR. Of course, he might well have changed his views by the time of our first application to join in the early 60s - especially since de Gaulle was agin it.
No, they will have the option of joining the Lib Dems, the SNP, the other small parties and the independents in supporting a neutral interim government, in the unlikely event anyone actually gets their shit together enough in the enxt few days to do anything about Johnson.
Once again, Corbyn is pushing for Brexit - do you really not get that? Supporting him is support for Brexit, and it should by now be clear to everybody that any Brexit will be a no-deal one, as there is no possibility of a deal that satisfies everyone. Hell, there’s pretty much no chance of a deal that satisfies anyone.
He may or may not have been in favor of the EU being created in the first place, but as a student of history, Churchill would have known that the if there was one thing the UK has been opposed to for the past 500 years, it was having the Continent united against it - which is exactly what the Brexiters are leading to.
having an affair with yet another woman (fathering her child)
during the referendum campaign, lying about 80 million Turkish immigrants and £350 million weekly to the NHS
blundering as Foreign Secretary
breaching the Ministerial Code over £50,000 earnings
being censured by the Press Standards Association for lying
acting illegally over proroguing Parliament
described by the Economist magazine as “the politician who has done most to let down his party and country” and “the most irresponsible politician the country has seen for many years.”
on a staged political visit to a hospital, telling a protestor that ‘there are no Press here’: in the film (taken by the TV press, you can hear the clicking of Press photographers)
Why yes, it’s Boris Johnson who has done all this…
Prolly a good thing considering that the UK leaving the EU without a deal is coming soon too.
There is no plan. There’s not gonna be a plan. Oh maybe they’ll submit a “plan” that’s just one typed page that says “fuck off EU”, but there’s not gonna be any real plan.
Other than the plan for a small group of people to make a shitload of money off other people’s suffering over the next decade or so, I mean.