Dance, boy, dance!
Laugh, gimp, laugh.
DRINK!
bub 4
buddy 2
chump(s) 2
smart guy 1
bro 1
tough guy 1
gimp 2
Now Milton, don’t be greedy. No one is going to take away your stapler.
[Deep breath.]
Can you not see that what most folks here are saying is GODAMN IT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH Y–
Hold on, Let me try again.
RR For most folks here, the difference between “The right thing to do” and “some moral/ethical obligation” is nearly AWW FUCK THIS YOU WASTE OF SKIN DIE DIE DIE DIE–
Wait, I’ll come in again.
More commonly used in the form “All hat, no cattle.”
Darth, let me clear this up for you, palomino.
I choose to tip because I think its’s the right thing to do and I want to do it. If you want to characterize the situation as me fulfilling a moral obligation to tip, then that’s fine, but I don’t see how the extra words around the situation really change or add anything.
Now, on the other hand, if someone tells me that they believe doing something else (eg, pro bono) is the right thing to do, then I would do it if I agree and I want to do it. But many people here believe that I have an actual obligation to do pro bono based only on their belief that it’s the right thing to do. That isn’t correct–their belief imposes no actual obligation on me. If they want to characterize the situation as me failing to fulfill a moral obligation, then that’s fine, but the extra words don’t change or add anything.
OK, what makes tipping “the right thing to do” ?
Hypothetically speaking, if pro bono was required to the extent that it met your definition (there was a sanction for not doing it), 1) would you do it, and 2) would you protest being coerced to do it?
I had a terrible dream that this thread had finally died, but then I awoke in my underwear on final exam day and was *so *relieved.
EL: I don’t know exactly–I share the basic understandings of right and wrong that people in our society have generally internalized. I think it’s because that’s just how that transaction is designed to work–ie, the bulk of a waiter’s income comes from tips, and the tip is just part of what a customer pays to eat at a full-service restaurant. I guess I see some unfairness to violating a waiter’s expectation based on the design of the transaction.
I am prepared for all of the crappy analogies to pro bono that will be vomited forth based on the above. So bring it.
FI: I would do it if I chose to remain a lawyer. I wouldn’t protest about being coerced–it would just be part of the deal one must accept to be a lawyer.
I am prepared for all of the crappy analogies to taxes that will be vomited forth based on the above. So bring it.
You’re “prepared” to explain what makes pro bono different? Then please do so. You’d be doing yourself a favor.
EL: make an argument and I’ll respond.
Resolved: There is no moral or ethical difference of any significance between the obligation for a diner to tip waitstaff and the obligation for a lawyer to perform pro bono work.
Your turn. Thought of anything yet? Take all the time you need.
EL: make an argument and I’ll respond.
Ha, that was an accidental double post, but it’s actually relevant. Here’s a hint, EL: putting “Resolved:” before it does not turn an assertion into an argument.
Also, try to use some terms that have meaning–I don’t know what a “moral or thical difference” is, and your use of “obligation” is sloppy.
Or, you could just acknowledge you trapped yourself there. It isn’t like anyone else doesn’t know, is it, child?
No shit.
Sure is takibg you a while to come up with an actual argument there, bub. Perhaps you are incapable of doing so.
Some people do have other things to do with their lives. Which client did you say you’re billing for the time you’re spending on this bit of nonsense, again?