[QUOTE=MrDibble]
Wait, she didn’t even paint with the blood? Just displayed it?
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She should have sold it on eBay.
So nobody doubts the artificialness of said inseminations?
The Yale art department has a lot to answer for.
[hijacky goodness]
[QUOTE=Eonwe]
I admit I was being a little tongue-in-cheek just so I could use the term “pomegranate lobby.”
Still, I suppose what my point really was was just that when there is a pretty well proven and safe method of contraception, who has interest in finding another. Particularly when even the anecdotal evidence (based on WhyNot’s post) is that they only work for a sub-set of women (thin and fit)?
Plus, I think that tolerance for failure is lower in the modern world that it might have been in the past. “Fairly effective” contraception is not something I’d ever want to rely on with anyone except my (hypothetical) wife, and then only under certain circumstances.
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Exactly. And I love the term “pomegranate lobby”. Basically, what we have works for over 90% of the women who want it, and so there’s no need to figure out if something else works or worked in the past - especially if that something is in an unpatentable plant form. There actually are (or were, a few years ago) people researching pharmaceutical material extracted and concentrated from pomegranates, but I’ve not kept up with the topic. I don’t know if they ever got any promising results.
The bar for pre-Western Medicine women was set much lower - if you could delay your yearly pregnancy for six months so you could nurse the baby you had last fall, or have one or two fewer babies than Herta, who’s looking awfully worn out after her 15th, then that’s a “fairly effective” form of birth control. If a form of birth control was 70% effective, it was the most effective they had. We don’t have to be satisfied with such low numbers any more.
Although just a note: the “thin and active” was inserted by me, in a CYA move - there are some things about fertility and menstrual cycles that apply in thin women living away from city lights in a tribal situation that are blown out of the water once you try to apply them to fat urbanites. Estrogen is stored in fat, and it may (or may not) affect the contraceptive effects of some methods of birth control.[/hijack]
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
I don’t care about her art project, why would I care about her class schedule?
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It’s funny how often you respond to something to say you don’t care. Why respond if you don’t care?
[QUOTE=FriarTed]
He probably basis it on her claim to be a premeditated multiple-self-abortionist. If her claim is true, I would say the dynsfunctional ship has already sailed.
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Even if it’s not, the dysfunctional ship has sailed.
[QUOTE=mswas]
It’s funny how often you respond to something to say you don’t care. Why respond if you don’t care?
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Wooosh!
[QUOTE=FriarTed]
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]
And you are basing these assumptions on…WHAT? QUOTE]
He probably basis it on her claim to be a premeditated multiple-self-abortionist. If her claim is true, I would say the dynsfunctional ship has already sailed.
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I’d say it sailed long before the premeditated multiple-self-abortionist art project got launched. But I do get extremely sick of the anti-abortion crowd stating that every woman who has an abortion suffers negative physical, mental and/or emotional effects. I believe that’s what they hope will happen to every woman who has an abortion as their idea of a just punishment.
[QUOTE=FriarTed]
Yeah, I’m 95% anti-choice, but can we all agree that this is just disturbed?
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Yes, as long as we agree that it’s just as legal as many other disturbing things that people have the right do to themselves.
The “artist” is getting shredded in the Yale newspaper along with her advisor and the internet traffic just shut down the site.
[QUOTE=MrDibble]
Wooosh!
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Hardly :rolleyes: It’s funny how you guys follow me to other threads even. I detect a crush.
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]
[QUOTE=FriarTed]
I’d say it sailed long before the premeditated multiple-self-abortionist art project got launched. But I do get extremely sick of the anti-abortion crowd stating that every woman who has an abortion suffers negative physical, mental and/or emotional effects. I believe that’s what they hope will happen to every woman who has an abortion as their idea of a just punishment.
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Does the whole concept of physiology really escape you? Do you honestly believe that there are no physical consequences from a miscarriage let alone gratuitous multiple miscarriages? Besides, you’re making a big assumption as to my political preference on the abortion issue. So all you can see is propaganda when someone talks about someone’s actual physical health?
I’m agnostic on the issue BTW.
[QUOTE=Cosmic Relief]
Yes, as long as we agree that it’s just as legal as many other disturbing things that people have the right do to themselves.
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What does it’s legal status have to do with whether or not it’s disturbed?
[QUOTE=mswas]
It’s funny how often you respond to something to say you don’t care. Why respond if you don’t care?
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To get a laugh out of people, both at my joke and your whoosh.
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
To get a laugh out of people, both at my joke and your whoosh.
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Well then I continue to be whooshed. Maybe it conflates the idea of me not wanting to debate an intractable debate, with the idea of whether or not one cares about things?
So color me still whooshed.
But I appreciate the attention, it’s fun to have stalkers.
I’m probably one of the staunchest pro-choice people you’d ever care to meet, but I think this is twisted and sick. Frankly I think she could be charged with a crime, though one doesn’t immediately spring to mind. It isn’t art, any more than my standing on an overpass and flinging feces at the drivers passing under me would be. It’s just trying to piss people off. :mad: Frankly, I sort of hope she’s made herself infertile with her ‘art’.
[QUOTE=mswas]
Well then I continue to be whooshed. Maybe it conflates the idea of me not wanting to debate an intractable debate, with the idea of whether or not one cares about things?
So color me still whooshed.
But I appreciate the attention, it’s fun to have stalkers.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but anybody could have written post #34 and I’d have responded the same way. I didn’t even look at the post’s author’s name when I was mentally composing the joke because it’s of no relevance.
And if the joke remains elusive, I’ll just point out the double use of the word “period”, which can refer to menstruation or school scheduling, both of some relevance to the subject of this thread - a female student. I suppose I could dig up a dictionary cite.
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Hate to burst your bubble, but anybody could have written post #34 and I’d have responded the same way. I didn’t even look at the post’s author’s name when I was mentally composing the joke because it’s of no relevance.
And if the joke remains elusive, I’ll just point out the double use of the word “period”, which can refer to mentruation or school scheduling, both of some relevance to the subect of this thread - a female student. I suppose I could dig up a dictionary cite.
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Ok, ok, I get it now. 
Don’t worry Bryan. Sometimes you have to suffer for your art.
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Don’t worry Bryan. Sometimes you have to suffer for your art.
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I disagree. He shoulda aborted it.