No one ever died from someone else’s abortion.
Well, ok, that does depend on how you define “someone else”.
It’s also noteworthy how many leftists who otherwise are extremely critical of government and the police nonetheless think they should have a monopoly on weapons.
FWIW, I have different opinions on all three of those topics. Just because you’re anti-gun doesn’t mean you’re anti-SSM.
I’m not sure where I stand on the gun issue. I don’t have or want one (and am screwed up in the head so I probably wouldn’t be able to get a gun*) but I’m not against guns entirely.
*Also, I’m in Canada, not the US, and I don’t know how easy it is to get a gun in Canada vs. the US.
This is silly. I’m critical of the questionable use of armed drones in sovereign countries without their consent. I don’t think the answer is to give armed drones to private citizens, or to those other countries.
I’m not saying if someone is anti-gun they are anti-SSM.
I’m saying it’s the same attitude of ‘if I don’t approve of it you shouldn’t be able to do it’.
As an avowed leftist, I too find it regrettable that the left has become the home for anti-gun loons. Then again, I’m sure a lot of gun-nuts would call me an anti-gun loon considering that I would argue for things like universal background checks, magazine size limits, requiring licenses for ALL handgun ownership, and such. But I’m not anti-gun whatsoever, as explained earlier.
I have gun control opinions but my pro-bacon views are stronger.
You hardly fall into a loon category.
The anti-gun people I know think that there is absolutely NO reason for anybody to ever have a gun, no matter who they are, what they do, where they live and they are totally unable to accept that certain living conditions ie: living on a farm or a ranch or living in wilderness areas makes a gun a necessary part of life.
In their minds if you live in one of those areas and you aren’t willing to accept that the wildlife of those areas are going to kill your stock, or pets and even break into your home and kill you or your kids then you should move to an area where guns aren’t necessary.
They have no concept of any lifestyle outside their own little protected box and think everybody should conform to their idea of how to live.
They want to put down anybody who owns a gun and somehow it always comes out to be that the only people who own/want guns are mouth breathing religious white paranoid psychopaths with small penises who are hoarding stockpiles of weapons for the future apocalypse.
That could be insulting me and the entire farming side of my family, if we actually gave a damn what they think.
What we do give a damn about is that they, who know nothing about the lifestyle, want to dictate how we should live.
They are no different from the lunatic fringe on the right who want to tell me what to do with my body, who I can marry and that I’m surely going to hell because I don’t believe in their form of Christianity.
When one segment of society wants to impose their values and beliefs on another segment of society, that is wrong, and it doesn’t matter which side you’re on.
I see the more credible anti-gun viewpoint as “I don’t want to get shot, so you shouldn’t have one.”
I see your point, but it prevents me from shooting a bad guy. 
And I am for SSM, just for the record.
sahirrnee, the anti-gun people you describe sound really stupid!
I love the government, especially when the Democrats are in charge, and am very supportive of the police.
Unrelated observation 1: There are so many examples of seemingly contradictory stances held by individuals, or by groups (not each member of which holds both views simultaneously), that anyone being surprised at this with regards to gun control is itself surprising.
Unrelated observation 2: I’d say I’m only slightly more liberal than average for America, until the past 4 years I would have said I was in the top 75% most liberal, but the country has thankfully moved to the left on social issues. Yet I almost put “strongly pro gun”. I only didn’t put it because apparently there are 10% of the population that are in complete agreement with the NRA. I don’t see why we can’t have some reasonable reform like limiting magazine size, but more importantly I think that the knee-jerk calling of anyone who wants to implement any restrictions at all a “gun grabber” is shrill and simplistic, even when I don’t agree with the gun restricters’ goals such as the renewal of the AWB.
They are afraid that if the “I don’t want a gun, so you shouldn’t have one, either” folks get one law passed, it will be easier to pass others which would be more restrictive.
There may be 40 senators that would vote for an absolute ban on abortion. But that doesn’t mean they’re not fringe?
I’ve tried to make the same point. The AWB is probably the reason why manchin toomey didn’t happen.
I’ve tried to bring up the historical example of how LBJ lost his chance at licensing and registration (and I know not every gun nut approves of L&R) because some senator from Maryland tried to push for a ban.
Yes, it does. By definition of the word “fringe”.
By these definitions, I fall somewhere between “mildly” and “strongly” pro-gun. There seems to be a bit of a gap between the two, IMO.
I voted “mildly”, fwiw.
I do not own a gun.
I missed your definitions. I guess I’m neutral, then, as I’m between your “mildly pro-gun” and “mildly anti-gun.” I’m not generally for guns, but I also don’t support the idea of what “strong limits” usually means. I don’t think there’s any one particular type of gun that is currently permitted that should be banned. Guns don’t kill people–people kill people. My preferred restrictions are about who can own them and possibly what they can be used for (though most of that is already covered by current laws).
I would be inclined to check on those people who are so paranoid that they think Obama is going to take away their guns, though. I’m sure most are just being misled, but some might have truly delusional paranoia. And that’s one group that shouldn’t have guns. (Another being those with anger problems.)
I own eight guns (including 2 Glocks w/ high capacity mags - not necessary for the other six, as they’ll put a jackbooted thug down with one shot) and disagree with pretty much everything the NRA has said or done in the last 20 years ago and I’m downright sickened bytheir post Sandy Hook behavior, so label me as you see fit.
I think that is to some extent fearing the worst case scenario.
I don’t believe the cats who never go outside will be expose to rabies, but they get their shots anyway.
But then, I’m an engineer.
If their is some chance the Feds under Obama will outlaw a particular firearm, they are resisting it.