You are thinking of Fuzz starring Burt Reynolds and Raquel Welch, based on an Evan Hunter 87th Precinct story. Right after it premiered on network TV, a young woman whose car ran out of gas in, I think, Alabama was set on fire by four youths and died. When they were captured, a cop asked where they got the idea to burn her and guess what they said?
Completely agree with you. There was no “Falling Down”. Dude was a sick fuck at the bottom of the barrel to begin with. Total Bait and Switch. Hate that movie.
I haven’t said how I feel; I was just reporting Leonid Kinsky’s feelings. Myself, I enjoy Hogan’s Heroes when I come across in on MeTV, although I can understand why some people wouldn’t.
I haven’t seen JoJo Rabbit, but I do enjoy The Producers (the original film; I haven’t seen the musical). But somehow The Producers feels different than Hogan’s Heroes. The former depicts someone who still worships Hitler, years after he was defeated, as a laughable buffoon, while the latter depicts actual Nazis, while they were active and at the height of their power, as laughable buffoons.
I can understand how people might regard that as a more dangerous viewpoint. After all, the whole point is that the Nazis weren’t buffoons. They were horribly effective at accomplishing their goals.
Obviously it’s not a viewpoint that everyone shares. As noted above, all four of the major German characters in Hogan’s Heroes were played by Jewish actors, and Robert Clary (LeBeau) was actually a Holocaust survivor who lost several siblings in the camps. Clary was always careful to point out that Stalag 13 was a prisoner of war camp, not a concentration camp. But he certainly seemed to have no qualms about how the Nazis were portrayed in the show.
A little research and I find out it was six youths from Boston and there were other, similar, episodes. My apologies.
Thanks for what you found. Fuzz is the work I was thinking of. No proof it was the motivation for the attacks but at that time it was a much bigger story.
Something similar happened with Beavis and Butthead.
“In 2008, Messner himself would confirm that his family did not have cable at the time due to his mother’s drug addiction, and that he had never seen an episode of the show, nor planned to.”
The Nazis had horrible goals. That was more it than anything else. Whether they were more effective than anyone else, I don’t know.
I never had a problem with the show. I know others did, even at the time. Klink was clearly put out as a specific, singular character, and I thought it was pretty clear that he was needed for plot purposes, and that he was not representative of everyone on the German side.
Not everyone on the German side was a Nazi. I am not excusing this. But it was a fact then and now. It was a mosaic of people on that side. Committed evil fanatics, people who went along with various degrees of willingness, slackers.
There were various other properties dealing with POW life under the Germans. Stalag 17, where there was a lawsuit over this show. The Great Escape, Von Ryan’s Express. There was some comedy in all of these. I guess a difference is that the prisoners were never killed in Hogan’s Heroes because Hogan and company always won. Though there is an episode where a German has the Heroes under gunpoint, Klink and soldiers show up, and the Heroes turn the tables and the German is shot and killed by Klink’s men. So I suppose there would be a circumstance where Klink would have killed POWs, it just never happened.
There was an episode where the Heroes were part of a plot to try and kill Hitler, similar to the real life incident. Serious threats to the Heroes were sometimes killed outright. It was kind of odd fodder for a sitcom then and today, but the inspiration were those semi-comic POW movies that already existed.
In one episode following the incident they see something on fire and Beavis starts to excitedly shout out, “Fi-- oh, yeah. Can’t say that any more.”
Also, Beavis and Butthead almost died re-enacting a school lesson about Ben Franklin using a key on a kite to discover electricity.
As much as I think people can miss the point of Beavis and Butthead, I still love the show. I think it’s brilliant at it’s best. Perhaps too crude at times, but generally very funny. South Park is different, in that it’s crude, and it’s beating you over the head with messages that are half-baked.
Ooops, replied to the wrong person.
The point of Beavis and Butthead was “MST3K for music videos”, the rest was filler.
You enjoyed the Music Video segments more than the stories, huh? I think both were great, but some like one over the other. They were seeming, like, a few IQ points higher when critiquing videos at times. I don’t know what Judge’s politics are, exactly. I know he’s been on Rogan when promoting new episodes, and (sadly) talked to Alex Jones on Info Wars a long while ago. “King of the Hill” was pretty mild, but had some stories about tolerance. I’m sure there are things on KotH that haven’t really aged well, like white cast members voicing other races. I think it was generally good-intentioned. I know Hank was upset over Bush Jr’s handshake.
If anyone can stand to watch anything with Jones and is morbidly curious.
Has anyone mentioned Oprah in this thread yet? She brought alternative medicine, anti-vaccination, and magical belief (The Secret) to millions of American homes. Surly that had to cause some harm.
not to mention Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil.
Oprah’s pretty low on the scale for an afternoon talk show host. Mike Douglas used to hype Uri Geller and other psychic frauds on his show back in the 70s.
Mike was out of Cleveland and then Philadelphia, so he had to make do with whoever was in town. Oprah in LA had a huge talent pool, and they wouldn’t have been banned for appearing by Johnny Carson as he did to his own time slot’s competition.
As well as TV, in literature she made the 90s the era of “poor me” memoirs
She screwed up in a number of areas. And while she wasn’t focused on the woo as much as others her mistakes were unquestionably magnified by the size of her audience.
So I have many times repeated the claim that this movie killed more people during filming than the actual events portrayed. But a quick googling reveals I may have confused it with the contemporary soviet propaganda film about the storming of the winter palace.