Islam is not a race. Assuming the existence of free will it’s a voluntarily held ideology. If we can critique fascism or communism we can critique Islam. And I don’t care about the crusades.
Just shut the fuck up, DM00. You’ve exceeded your quota of ignorant bigot for the thread in your opening post. Don’t you get tired of being consistently wrong? And no, believing you’re right despite evidence to the contrary is not some sort of virtue - it’s just the Dunning-Kruger effect on display. Seek professional help, you fucking imbecile.
Yes here you again with your lies and half truths, you are a bigotted scum liar.
for example
Indeed DAESH claims responsiiblities for lots of things, but did not even know the name of the person - but it fits your genocidaire narratives of hate and bigotry.
Are you punching up or down?
For the sake of the historical truth of the matter, there was nothing ‘last minute’ about America getting the Soviet Union to enter the war against Japan (and neither was there anything ‘opportunistic’ about the Soviet entry into the war). Stalin agreed in principle to enter the war against Japan once Germany had been defeated at Tehran in November 1943 and specifically to enter the war against Japan within three months of the defeat of Germany at the Yalta Conference in February 1945.
You do know that you are entirely full of shit, right? It’s rather physically impossible for the US to have supplied weapons to the USSR ‘in the years before we entered the war while the Bolsheviks were bogged down’ when the German invasion of the Soviet Union (June 22, 1941) only happened half a year before Pearl Harbor (December 7, 1941). Add to that US lend lease aid to the Soviet Union only began in October 1941, two months before the US was at war.
Oh yeah, GWB invading Iraq had fuck-all to do with the war on terror, but you knew that already, right?
Actually, Muslim Americans almost match Christian Americans in support for gay rights. Only a 2% difference in their support for gay marriage. Statistically, Muslim Americans are also less likely to shoot you than Christian Americans, per capita.
It’s not far from the Mormon population – about 3 and half million Muslims in America, and about 6 million Mormons.
Do you ever get tired of being ignorant and factually wrong so often?
Well that proves just how goddamn un-American they are !
Thank you, Ramira, for clarifying some of these Arabic words for us.
Missed edit window … forgot to add something Pit-worthy:
“There is only one God, and His prophet is Muhammad”
That is not accurate or you misunderstand me. The Soviets dragged their feet and tried to do nothing. It was the constant American pressure and a last minute opportunism that saw the Soviets bother to do anything on the Japanese front. edited to add: I wrote in the last minutes of the war, I was refering to the Soviets finally intervening against the Japan not the American pressure, which yes is years in the making - it only highlights the gross hyposcrisy of Derek in his narrative.
So yes, the Soviets enter the war at the last minute and only from the American pressure, but Derek as part of his usual constant whirlwind of spinning ignores the Americans being the very source of the Soviet intervention and claims the Americans “saved” the Japanese from the communism… He is gross lying hypocrite.
Yes, you have said every Muslim is guilty of terrorism. That’s what you do when you say Islam is the problem. Terrorism is the problem. Some terrorists are Muslims; some terrorists are not Muslims. Some Muslims are terrorists; some Muslims are not terrorists. When you equate Islam with terrorism, that’s racism.
When you start arguing about the definition of racism and say that you’re not racist because technically Muslims aren’t a race, you just embarrass yourself. A second time, because you’ve already embarrassed yourself by posting things which demonstrate you’re a racist.
the difference with Christians overall is 4%, the difference with Muslims is 10%, thats 2.5x the difference. Also, Christian majority countries don’t have the kind of LGBT record as Muslim-majority countries in modern times (and no, I don’t give a shit about 200 years ago). And this is when there arent enough Muslims in America for them to cluster together in enclaves (or history for that like with Mormons); they have to associate with others now. If we increase the Islam population enough in this country, it will be like Europe and they’ll become much more insular and regressive.
Also, you ever notice me praising Christianity? NO! I just don’t critique it as I do Islam, because I don’t need to. Notice how all the other non-Christian groups support gay marriage in huge numbers? Ever notice how the overall sample is much more pro marriage-equality than Muslims too? Why is this??
No it’s not. The Christian American support for gay marriage is 44%; the Muslim American support is 42%. You’re probably looking at the “all affiliated” number at 46%, which is just all people who identify as religious, and the “all Americans” at 53%. Yes, religious people in general are more supportive of gay marriage than Muslims and Christians, and Americans in general are more supportive of gay marriage than religious Americans.
Right – you don’t care about history, don’t care about the past, you’re only interested in bashing Muslims.
There’s nothing special about Islam. There’s something special about instability and poverty, which are unfortunately much more common in the Muslim world than the Western world.
Bullshit. Ever heard of Dearborn Michigan? Medium sized city, very large Muslim population. And pretty damn open, tolerant, and progressive.
Says the ignorant bigot… I’m not convinced.
Because religion tends to be anti-gay marriage, and those other groups are typically less religious, whatever they identify as.
Let’s see: Christians (overall): 44 s, 48 o, difference is 4%. Muslims (overall): 42 s, 52 o, difference is 10%. 4% vs. 10%; 10 = 4 x 2.5. Simple math.
Tho if you do look at non-Protestant groups,
When I said non-Christians, I mean Hindus: 68 s, 23 o, difference is 45%. Buddhists: 84 s, 13 o, difference is 71%. Jews: 77 s, 18 o, difference: 69%.
And of course, the potential new Muslim immigrants are far less tolerant than the few Muslims here now.
I don’t care about scenarios from the past that aren’t directly related to today. Christendom got over religion in politics in a way Islamic society (the anologue of Christendom, not Christianity) has not.
If its all about poverty and instability, (non-Muslim) sub-Saharan Africa has things far worse. Where’s the global jihad in the name and cause of them??
One example, and a relatively small one. And a metro city, of course the place as a whole overall is “progressive;” its not because of Islam. You do know Muslims voted heavily for W. in 2000, mainly over social issues, and only turned away from the GOP because of Iraq, right?
Hitler gutted the church and sought to ultimately eliminate it.
Also, how often do PP bombings happen? Jonestown wasn’t part of a global movement as these jihadists attacks are. The attempt on your part to liken even those other things to Muslim jihadism is typical obfuscation I don’t even need to address.
And for the last time, the Crusades was 1000 years ago. Progressives and Islamists need to get the fuck over it. Plus, the Crusades were revenge for the Fitnas the caliphates of the time waged against Europe; both were good examples of religious savagery.
More often than people shoot up Orlando night clubs. Still not my point. Go back and read my post again. I made my point explicit.
How does the OP explain Bill Maher?
- YouTube
The Jihadists and the US fundy Christian Teahadists view the world in a similar fashion and have many idea in common. Mostly I feel a good deal of distain for both.
On the other hand, I’m not in favor of ripping up the Constitution.
So am I apologizing for Islam when I say I do not favor a ban on Muslims entering the country, special surveillance of Mosques, and forcing Muslims to sign special pledges? Or am I simply supporting the Constitution?
Funny you should ask that. So how about 0 years ago but in similar historical and economic contexts as much of the Middle East ? Like, say, in sub-Saharan Africa, where the very Christian majority organizes honest to Og witch hunts against children, and national newspapers dox homosexuals ?
And then you have the likes of the Lord’s Resistance Army; which you don’t want to read about right after lunch. I mean that.
Oh hey ! You know nothing about Europe either ! Who coulda thunk ?!
That’d be because there are like five Muslims in the US, total, you disingenuous tool. Of course every example is going to be an isolated, small-to-middling community. Well, except maybe for the NOI, but then they have about as much in common with mainstream Islam as fortune cookies have with Chinese cuisine.
We cannot win a war against all of Islam, which is what we will be waging if we keep painting the whole religion as potential terrorists. We need the cooperation of Muslim allies, so we should stop doing everything we can to alienate them. Tough guys finish last.
Of course he doesn’t; he’s going with his strengths.