On the backwards/repressive part, you can go to Freedom House, ILGA, see for yourself. On the terrorism/extremism, all you have to do is pay attention to current events.
Sorry for being truthful to myself, not being guilty about being American, and honouring liberty and hating evil.
So you got nothing.
I’d venture to say that I’ve personally done a lot more to honor liberty as an American than you pretend to have done.
Actually, our Comrades were indispensable in vanquishing Nazi Germany.
(And your use of “raped” would make me think less of you. If my opinion could get any worse.)
while this thread is about the constant denial/obfuscation about Islam-inspired extremism and progressives convincing themselves Islam is some bastion of progressivism, you do know that the US supplied weapons to the USSR in the years before we entered the war while the Bolsheviks were bogged down, and the main reason the Soviets suffered so bad was because Stalin purged the army and the early warners (see “In the Court of the Red Czar” by Simon Montefiore), right?
Yes really.
As both Kobal and I are francophones, we can follow very easily the actual information from the French inquiry and there is no clear evidence of this person having any connection with the DAESH.
It may emerge but there is nothing so far to say that he was anything beyond the mentally ill who latched on to some internet propaganda by himself.
The DAESH claiming post-facto (and not even being able to cite the name they do not know) is only the opportunism on their part to try to boost up their apparent size and reach and draw in more recruits as they slowly fail in reality…
Funny, you do their water-carrying for them… but the hateful extremist bigots do tend to feed off of each other, as the Director of the DGSI has warned.
Indeed in fact you imply the collective guilt and you engage in the typical language of the bigotry, with the sliding half claims and lying and the half truths to smear, lacking any courage to say the real thinking.
Funny it is like a self-parody.
but what do we expect from the person who claims transgenderism is a communist plot and excuses the civilian deaths in the Atomic bombings with the claim of saving the Japanese from the Soviets…
Yes really. You can trust me, I invented the lightbulb. Well, I say so, so clearly you must believe I did.
Sure liberated the *shit *out of Iraq, didn’t y’all ? :rolleyes:
In his Circus Mirror view of the world such things disappear, the USA is the Action Movie hero.
he even uses saving the Japanese from Communism as a praise to the USA, and hides in silence from the reality it was the Americans who pushed the Soviets into the Asian side of the Second World War - the bootstrapped excuse
this person is literally perfectly contemptible.
That is 100% the fault of the muslim sand negroes who were not up to task of accepting the good christian american enlightenment.
like the viet-namese and the cambodians.
Religion is a reflection of the culture. The religion of Islam is as different as the cultures that it is apart of. Religion is only relevant in that it’s used as a tool to organize and manipulate people into committing political acts of violence. By understanding the religion to be a symptom and not much of a cause, I can focus my efforts on identifying the key characteristics of people who are likely to terrorize and likely not to. For example, you will never catch me warning a flight attendant about a fellow passenger because they used “God willing” in a sentence or is swarthy and doing calculus. Also I don’t shit my pants when I see a Muslim pray.
But let’s say I am completely wrong, what will be accomplished once we adopt whatever point of view you have? Inform me of the practical benefits of suppressing my beliefs and adopting your way of thinking.
Oh, what a brave keyboard warrior you are. And what exactly are you doing about any of this, aside from bitching about it on an Internet message board?
I don’t hate Israel, and I think that Islam, like all religions, is a bunch of hooey. What I don’t believe is a) oppressing vast numbers of people based on the actions of a few; b) that ‘radical Islam’ presents a greater threat to western civilization than people like you, who seem all too willing embrace said oppression for the sake of some vanishingly small increment of ‘safety’.
Not agreeing to express exactly the same bigoted opinions as you seem to have is not ‘apologizing’ for Islam. Twit.
Jews don’t have enough population. If a similar percentage of Jews decided to become terrorists it would be a terror group of 6 people. Buddhists and Hindus have both done terrible things over the years, but honestly it’s the Christians that have been the worst. The thing is they are, by and large, the ruling class so their actions aren’t seen as terrorism. But… Christian’s tried to ethnically cleanse Europe in the 1940s. There was that whole Bosnia thing more recently. The KKK is an active Christian terrorist organization which kills people every year right here in the United States. Of course there is that whole issue with Northern Ireland. In fact in the British Isles there has been ongoing Christian terrorism for about 600 years. It’s been pretty terrible. It was worse a while ago, but it was very real until very recently.
Then if you want to go back into history the examples become more obvious with Christians actively trying to conquer the globe via colonization.
Also Virginia Tech, Arora Colorado, Newtown CT, Charles Manson, Jonestown. All examples of Christian extremists. Lunatics, sure, but Christian lunatics. If you are counting Orlando and San Bernardino, you have to count them too.
Now before you go and start taking this apart point by point, I am going to tell you that I don’t particularly care if you feel like you can refute any of this because I don’t believe Christians are evil only that evil things… Terrorist acts (Timothy McVeigh) have been committed by Christians. That doesn’t make Christianity a violent or dangerous religion (though talk to some aethists about that some time) it just means some Christians are dangerous. Like, because humans are occasionally dangerous. If you get them into groups they will start joining together to create an “us” that will be pitted against a “them”. The problem is you are deciding that the group that has decided you are “them” and needs to be fought is much larger than it really is. Like an order of magnitude larger.
If you want to fight “them” (a debatable idea, but probably an inevitable one) you need to understand who “they” actually are. Deciding that all of Islam is them then only… Maybe 5% actually is, is inherently dangerous. Not just for the rest of Islam but for you also. Before long if you decide that all 100% are them the other 95% will decide you are right. They also might be joined by the rest of the non Christian world in deciding you are actually the problem and, frankly, you are vastly outnumbered.
Ethnic cleansing rarely ends well for anyone.
Your analysis of progressives continues to be mostly false and idiotic, probably because you’re an ignorant, bigoted piece of shit.
There you go again comparing apples to oranges; those attacks you cite were not expressly done in the name and cause of Christianity. 9/11, 7/7, 3/11, Fort Hood, San Bernadino, Paris, Brussels, Nice (and ISIS has now claimed responsibility), and a huge amount of others elsewhere were all done in the name and cause of Islam. It’s not about what religion terrorists happen to have been raised, or practice at the moment; its about what the motivation and impetus for the terror is.
He isn’t just criticizing Islam for terrorism.
What percentage of the world’s Muslims support equal rights for women, gays and apostates? (Or just minimal rights such as the right to not be killed in the latter two cases.) I’ll bet it’s significantly less than the 95% you’re implying.
American Muslims are more supportive of gay rights than American evangelical Christians and Mormons.
Muslims are a religious group, while Mormons and evangelicals sects of a religious group. It’s pretty sad you can only compare Muslims to sects, because if you compared all Americans who practice any sort of Christianity to all Muslims who practice any sort of Islam, Islam wouldn’t look as good. The comparison fails too since the Muslim population isn’t anywhere close to the evangelical/Mormon populations here, thankfully.
Also, we’re not facing a potentially large influx of new evangelicals or Mormons from abroad, whereas we are with Islam.
My special pleading-meter just blasted across the room and punched a hole through the wall.
If you prove that you know anything at all about sects of Islam maybe we can get more detailed. This point you think you are making is a knock against your argument not for it.
NM. When come back bring cite.
Sure they were. Well, Ok no all of them, but most.
Jonestown, Hitler, Bosnia, Cossacks cleansing Jews, The troubles, the crusades, planned parenthood bombing, the kkk, etc etc.
But like I said in my post, not the point.