Proof that the Brady Bill does not work

[Mr.Zambezi]

whoops. in the last post I meant to say Mojo

[Mojo]

-Mr. Z., I don’t recall ever calling you an idiot. My point was this- there are several things that could’ve happened to either set of states in the study’s time frame: gun deaths decline, gun deaths increase, or gun deaths stay the same. If, during the time period of this study, gun deaths increased in both sets of states, but markedly so in states that previously had BB laws, would you say that BB was a success as states that previously did not have BB laws had a lower rate of increase? I think that you’d claim that BB had the effect of increasing gun death rates overall. I am not saying that BB is a rousing success, but I don’t believe that the data says that it is a “failure” as you claim.

if you control for all other factors that can affect the rate of gun deaths, none of the decrease is attributable to the Brady laws.

How do you control for this? Since there aren’t any states that have no BB laws, there is no true control.

MGibson, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say- I used “did” in my sentence to show that it was past tense (you might want to add “previously” to the end of that sentence).

I’m sorry if this comes out as incoherent- I’m sorta sleep deprived right now.

[Mr.Zambezi]

From the study (again)

Our analyses provide no evidence that implementation of the Brady Act was associated with a reduction in homicide rates. In particular, we find no differences in homicide or firearm homicide rates to adult victims in the 32 treatment states directly subject to the Brady Act provisions compared with the remaining control states."

If you would like to argue that the test was biased or that the control states were inadequate or that the authors are pro gun, lying, militia nuts, feel free to do so. I alredy provided a link to the study which should give you plenty of **specific[/] ammo if you choose to cite specifics.

But it is not my conclusion that the Brady Act had no effect on homicide rate; it is the authors’ conclusion. In fact, they say it right there in the conclusion.

[Joe_Cool]

*Originally posted by Mr.Zambezi *
**…I just wish that the gun control folks would look at heh facts and ignore the hype. **

You and I both. Unfortunately, gun control people don’t WANT to use facts, because they know that the facts show that their position is both untenable and silly, and expose that they really want to control PEOPLE, not guns.

So they point to pseudo-science, scientific-sounding hype, and emotional appeals (but the CHILDREN!!! HOW MANY CHILDREN MUST DIE??? [incidentally, the answer to this is: all of them. according to my research, 1 out of every 1 person ever born will die]) since hard data contradicts their position.