Proof the Climate Scientists are greedy liars

I have said it many times: when it comes to climate “science,” just follow the money and you can evaluate how real it is. Well, now there is proof; it was found that a climate “scientist” accepted over 1 million dollars over the past decade from groups that take an advocacy position with respect to climate change. That’s right, you heard what I said. But just in case you can’t believe it, let me say it again: there is proof of a climate “scientist” taking money from groups with an ax to grind on climate change and using said money to publish questionable data and conclusions in peer reviewed journals in an attempt to manipulate the field.

If one of these guys does it, let’s face it, probably all of them do.

It just goes to show that the “science” these guys are pushing is a vast conspiracy, funded by special interests, in a greedy attempt to line their own pockets. :frowning:

Here’s the story: Climate Scientist on the take.

I do so love link-reading tests.

“Climate Change *Denying *Scientist” would be more accurate, would it not?

NM. I failed the test.

I’m curious. If you are say, a company that relies on burning wood to create your product, and you want to do an analysis of how your production would impact local and national weather patterns or air quality - how do you hire a specialist to do that research without paying them?

Where you are paid from does not = you always come up with data in favor of the payor.

That said, get government funding out of science. The sooner the better.

Bastards! I bet they don’t even wipe up after using the gym equipment either.

Government funding of the sciences has won us a war, eradicated a number of diseases, and given us 17 of the world’s top 20 universities.

What would be better about eliminating it?

Fuck that. Government can be impartial. Companies can’t.

Wait…
I don’t get it.

Ah yes, Willie Soon, how soon many forget. (Yeah I know the OP is a parody but just in case of Poe’s law, Soon’s infamy was noticed before)

“If this had been an undergraduate paper, [Soon and Baliunas] would had received an F”.

It did not stop Inhofe to use that flawed paper to stop an early climate bill in congress.

It helps when you get rid of those pesky peer reviews.

Private funding of science will promote private interests. Cheap, throwaway crap does not always advance civilization.

You made me laugh out loud! Thank you!

Do you have an actual explanation as to why it would be better to eliminate government science funding?

Can be, I said. Blindly ideological much?

Why yes Diany, I do. While some believe that lack of government funding would defund all scientific research, we have a long history in this country (and in others) of privately funded research. Donors you know.

I guess if you believe that the government is utterly non-biased then you might think no private donor would be. That would be pretty silly, but I that some think this.

Small snippet to sum up my feelings:

Which comes from here.

YES! +1

It makes so much more sense to do have corporations research their own products. It’s not that I think that the government is dishonest, it’s just that they are incompetent. And anyway, if the research is faulty, the market can always correct the problems.

Take a look at the drug Rofecoxib, one of the most promising pain-killers released on the market in decades. The drug maker set up clinical trials and funded research on this drug and did everything they needed to do without government involvement. It’s a model of corporate citizenship and science done right!

Aw, CATO. You’re adorable.

Never mind, I’m guessing you’re one of those “government shouldn’t pay because it’s MY 37 cents and I WANTS IT!!11!!1!!eleventy” people. Going forward, I’ll give your opinions the consideration they merit.

Are you replying to me?

Wow, you pulled it off twice in one thread. My hat’s off to you. :cool:

Ever been anywhere close to the research funding process?