Prospective hire in conservative business once worked in porn. Reason not to hire?

Or, another Rhymer hypothetical, this one suggested by the five seconds of some show starring the young girl from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Our protagonist today is Debbie, a regional sales manager for a famous multinational firm–let’s say UPS. Debbie supervises a team of twenty field sales executives in Arkansas. These reps are the face of UPS for Little Rock. They only deal with businesses who do at least $250 a day’s worth of business with Bigh Brown. Their job is to solve with customer problems as they come up, to anticipate difficulties and keep them from becoming problems, to keep current customers happy and to bring in new business. Part of their job is being personable, charming, funny and respectable; part of it is being smart, clever, precise, and diligent.

Debbie has an opening on her team and is conducting interviews; because of company rules, she is doing so in a team with two colleagues, Brad & Don. The economy being what it is they get a ton of applicants. One of the applicants, Jasmine, has been out of work for about a year; nonetheless, she stands heads & shoulders above the others. She aces the math & computer skills part of the interview. She’s got plenty of experience in the industry, and not only does can she easily answer every technical question that is put to her in her interview, but she knows a few things that Debbie and her fellow interviewers did not know. Moreover, Jasmine’s people skills are stunning. During the interview she catches Debbie in a factual error, but she corrects her so skillfully and subtly that not only does Debbie not feel insulted, but in fact she feels extremely grateful. Jasmine is also quite lovely, which is an asset in any field sales job, though she dresses professionally and comports herself with as much dignity as Princess Grace. She is, in short, damn near ideal.

But after the interview, Brad (who is about thirty, fifteen years younger than Debbie), bursts into laughter. He can’t believe that Jasmine thinks she’ll get this job. Why is that? Well, he thought he recognized her as soon as he saw her, and the second he heard her speak he knew exactly who she was. A few moments’ on Google confirms his suspicious: while in college five years earlier, under a pseudonym, Jasmine starred in a series of porn videos . Debbie declines to look at more than a few seconds of any of them, but that’s enough to be sure that (a) the actress in question is Jasmine, and (b) the videos show her engaged in behavior not only hardcore but also degrading–being insulted, obliged to insult herself, slapped, pissed on, you name it. There’s no animals or children, but that’s the best you can say about it.

Though Jasmine is easily the most qualified candidate, neither Brad nor Don think she should get a callback. Brad says that, if Jasmine were on his team, he’d always be distracted the desire to see if she retains her porn skills; Don, who’s in his early sixties, says that Jasmine does not present the sort of image UPS wants to present. He wouldn’t hire for his team, he says, though he can work with her if he must.

It might seem that Debbie’s outvoted. But in fact, Don and Brad don’t GET votes. The opening is on her team; the other two managers are there to provide different POVs, but the hiring decision is Debbie’s. She has to make a recommendation to her boss, true, but her boss trusts her implicitly (and happens to hate Brad), so whatever she says goes. And Jasmine will not have occasional to see Brad except once a year at the sales conference and

Put yourself in Debbie’s shoes. What do you do?

Brad is a dick, Don is soon to retire.

I hire the best person for my team - why do I give a crap if she had a past?

Further, I’d probably suggest to Brad that if he pulled anything, or was rude to her, I would totally have her back if she chose to persue a sexual harrisment case.

Sorry, no shoe fetish here. I can haz panties?

I’d hire Jasmine - what she did in the past doesn’t matter if she can do her job and presents herself well now.

And Brad’s comment that he’d always be distracted by wondering if she still had her porn skills is appalling. It’s hardly her fault that he appears to be an unprofessional arsehole - he’s likely to be fired soon, for sexual harrassment if nothing else. Problem solved.

Can I not hire her and still punch Brad in the crotch?

If Brad recognized her, there’s a good chance someone else will too. And no, I don’t think I’d want that on my team. Personally, I couldn’t care less. But hiring her now would just leave me waiting for one of my customers calling in all offended. Inevitably, even if 100 customers love her, someone (like Don, for example) will get offended. Then I’m left explaining to my boss how, if I knew about her background, why I hired her.

So yeah, it’s not fair, but I’m a regional sales manager, not the fairness fairy. Surely in all those many applications there’s someone I can work with.

And Brad’s a jerk for a) tattling and b) not being able to work with her professionally.

PS: for a different job, where’s she’s not a company representative, or one not dealing with the public at all, I’d be willing to hire her. I don’t care about the porn, personally, but when it’s my job to represent a company, what matters is if the company would care.

Hire her. I doubt the published job requirements include “No history of performing in pornographic videos for public consumption”. Plenty of people have done porn- my wife and I have a collection of our own home videos. It’s not online, and not for sale, but what’s the difference?

And the third option- find out why she did it and hire her blah blah blah- none of their fucking business.

This is a Rhymer thread. Violence is always an option.

Oh, that option’s a trap. Asking that question is insane, especially if you’re male. I’m sure one of our resident legal eagles can explain why.

Hire her, of course! No need to “ignore,” or “find out why.”

Where’s the problem? Any customer who recognizes her is going to be a porn-watcher himself, and is likely to count having a smart, personable, eminently qualified, attractive ex-pornster as his UPS customer rep, as a plus. Even if he doesn’t quite see it that way, he’s going to have a hard time explaining why it’s offensive.

Otherwise, she’s still smart, personable, eminently qualified and attractive.

Either way, I see her bringing business IN.

On the other hand, I’d talk to Brad’s superior, try to get a note in his personnel file about his inappropriate remarks about her “skills,” and warn Jasmine that if he ever says or does anything inappropriate around her, to immediately report it.

As unfair as it is, she represents a brand risk to the company. Since she’ll have a job with heavy client interaction I’d be inclined to not hire her.

If she was a DBA for example, and she only worked with other employees then no problemo (I’d just make it clear to Jasmine that any instances of sexual harassment aimed at her are to be reported immediately).

I voted for “hire Jasmine, punch Brad.” I’d probably bring up Don’s concern with her, just so I can honestly say “she said it’s all in the past, and that’s good enough for me” when some prude finds out and complains.

I’d be too wierded out about the tmi I now had regarding brads porn watching habits to do anything.

Assuming that in her porn career, Jasmine was using a fake name and different hairstyle and makeup, I’d bet that few if any clients would make the connection, and fewer still would mention it out loud.

Or, Debbie could just shuffle the client assignments so Jasmine gets all the Dons on the list.

True Fact: I once had a client in a large company who was rumored to have posed in Playboy some 20 years earlier. No one could produce the particular issue, which didn’t stop the rumors. While it made for some interesting gossip, it didn’t seem to affect her career path one way or the other.

What are conservative people doing watching pornography?

The same thing anyone else is, I expect.

Bless your heart.

Hire her and punch Brad.

If Brad recognizes her a lot of other porn peepers will too. I am kind of torn on this because she has the skills. She made porno, a bad choice, to get through school. You can take the girl off the street but you can’t take the street out of the girl. She may continue to make bad choices to make a quick buck. Can a conservative company afford to hire her is the question?

I’d tell Brad that if he can’t do his job because he can’t help fantasizing about his female coworkers, then he doesn’t deserve to work among the general population.

As long as Jasmine isn’t dressing or acting like a porn star at work, then it shouldn’t be an issue.

I had the opportunity recently to participate in some specialized porn and, while it’s really good money and I am unemployed, it’s this exact hypothetical that made me turn it down.

Hire her. If anybody complains, ask them how they know she did porn. Bring their wives and bosses into the equation if they balk. Then point out that forgiveness and charity are supposed to be the values they live by, and shame them into increasing their business with Big Brown.