Pumping and Breast Feeding support thread!

Well we moved the little one to a NICU closer to home and they’ve promised me pumping and feeding help. I hope too that spending some more time with him will help me do better as he triggers milk better than anything else!

When I got back from visiting him this afternoon I got 30 mls my best pump yet and actual streams of milk instead of big drops!

Now if only my bloodpressure would go back to normal and the out of control crying would cease sigh I got a big chat from my nurse today about post partum depression and the meds they could give me if it doesn’t start to get better in a few days.

I am sure that your milk production increased because you’d been with your little lad! Great! And now you are nearer to him, you will be able to put more energy into recovery.

I know that they are ultra conservative here (and there is no culture of partners helping) but the five day stay for vaginal birth and 10 day stay for cesarean in Japan I think really helps, particularly if you have a baby who can’t come home with you. At least you get a few extra days to rest and be with babe before you have to start that dreadful commute.

When I had my second baby, who was a placenta previa baby, I was hospitalised from 30 weeks, because there was a fetal artery and a maternal vein (or the other way round!) running right over the cervix and the placenta was very thin at that point. As we were watching the scan that decided it the baby stuck his arm right into my cervix area and SHOVED. EEEK! We kept me with my legs crossed, only allowed to pee and shower for seven weeks until they decided he was ready to come out, and then I had an “emergency” cesarean. (The timing was planned etc but they had to cut through the placenta to get him out and they knew I would bleed a lot.)

I had to have a blood transfusion but luckily had stocked a litre of my own blood so was able to use that, and then made up the other 700mls with drips and LOTS of injections. I was so lightheaded for three days that I couldn’t sit up suddenly without fainting. Hokkaido Babe was fine though. He was smallish (six pounds) and had trouble regulating his oxygen for a few days, so was in an incubator.

His suck was incredibly weak, we’d sit there with me trying to wake him up and him licking my nipple every few minutes. Two hours later and his weight would have increased by 2grams or, thrills 6 grams. It was so, so, so frustrating.

However, we both came out of hospital together 12 days later, feeling fairly well. Feeding continued to be a struggle, I think because they didn’t help me pump (there is the mad notion in Japan that hand expressing is best. They would NOT accept that I can’t do it, and refused me a pump, or to sterilise the one my friend bought for me. So I couldn’t start pumping until after we got home.) It was also an extremely hot summer and I just could not drink enough for me and milk production together. However, he was exclusively breastfed for six months, and then went to formula, breast and a bit of solid food too. My milk finally stopped at 9 months due to a very traumatic long-distance move, involving a lot of very heavy lifting on my part.

Looking back I feel that I could not have done more than I did. He was fed for six months and that was the best I could do. I wish it had been the same as with my older boy, who was born at 41 weeks and was a big fat baby (8 1/2 lbs) with a suck that could have stuck him to the wall. He nursed until he was a year old, when sitting still got too boring for him, sniff… But his birth and our living circumstances were so different that you can’t compare the two experiences.

Tanookie you are doing so well, it is barely a week yet. I am sure that you are not suffering so much from post partum depression as post partum shock! Of course if in a few days you are not feeling better, then meds may very well be a good option to look into. But just now the crying and the shell shock is entirely appropriate.

Lots of people here are looking out for you. Even if we can’t help practically, you know there are lots of sympathetic ears listening to you at any time you need to talk.

How is your big girl coping with all the upheaval? Has she seen her baby brother yet?

And look on the bright side of all this - now is not the time for dieting, so go and indulge yourself for a few days with whatever comfort food does it for you!

It’s been mentioned, but oatmeal does help with boosting supply. Mother’s Milk tea is good too, but I can’t stand the taste. I usually throw in a bag of strawberry tea as well, to mask the taste. Fenugreek also works, really well, I’ve found. take 2-3 pills 3xday.

On reading the rest of the thread, I’m seeing that everything I wanted to mention has already been said, so I’m just going to offer up a good link with lots of BF advice: http://www.kellymom.com/bf/index.html

Congrats Tanookie!!

S’pose I should read the boards more often, eh?

When Spud (tired of saying “it”) is born sometime in February, we hope to breastfeed for as long as possible.

Kal wants me to breastfeed for 4 years… just so my boobs stay nice and big… :smiley:

My sister had lots of problems and gave up after a week of trying.

Good on you for sticking with it and trying to make it work.

Wishing you and your family all the best.

Take care of yourselves.

tanookie–I, too, had a preemie. A pretty darn small one at that!

I never actually got to breast feed her because of her size. However, I did pump the entire three months she was in the NICU.

My milk production was apparently legendary (from spending so much time in the NICU I assume) so I ended up freezing a lot of my milk.

I would like to second the suggestion about double-pumping. If you can do it, you’ll be much happier. I didn’t have a choice–I had to double pump or I would leak copious amounts of valuable preemie milk from the other breast!

Congrats on your baby! I hope he comes home soon!
(By the way, I also had toxemia with my preemie–if you want to talk or anything, feel free to contact me.)

Thanks for the well wished :slight_smile:

I have been dutifully pumping around the clock and there have been some improvements…

I also got to spend about 5 hours at the nicu yesterday just holding and feeding and loving the little one. This did wonders for my mental health and the pumping I did while I was at the nicu was my most successful yet.

I’m not very prolific with my milk supply… no leaking during pumping yet… I haven’t been very successful with letdown without a real life baby around. Pictures are nice but not the same.

But you HAVE been successful! Any milk at all is an accomplishment, especially with your baby living away from you. It will be better now, too, since he’s in a hospital closer to you. Going back and forth has been stressing your body and mind, and stress is not good for nursing mothers. Can you maybe get a tape recording of him crying? My milk let down in a hurry when I heard my baby cry, though this might have been because I was conditioned to it from living with her.

Your body is not a machine, it will produce different outcomes from what seems to be the same circumstances. Try not to fret about it. I know that’s easy for me to say, but really, this is normal.

I tried and tried and tried to pump or manually express milk when my daughter was a baby, but I could never manage to get more than a few drops. I was able to nurse her just fine after the first couple of weeks, though. The first month was rough, as I had very little in the way of a support system. I got the cracked nipples, the difficulty in letdown, all those common but aggravating problems.

Please make sure that you’re eating right, and especially getting enough calcium. When baby comes home, make sure to ask his pediatrician about vitamin drops. We lived in an area that didn’t have fluoridated water, so we had to get Poly-Vi-Fluor, and later fluoride tablets. However, my daughter has had (I think) one teensy little cavity in all of her 24 years. Her dentists have always remarked that they could tell that she’d had the right amount of fluoride when she was growing up, she’s got beautiful strong teeth.

belladonna’s right, you need to watch what you eat for baby’s sake, too. My daughter was very allergic to cow and goat milk, to the point where she’d break out if a drop of milk touched her skin. I had to restrict my milk drinking when I was nursing her. I took calcium tablets and ate cheese (which didn’t seem to bother her any) to make sure that I was getting enough calcium. I also took “pregnancy vitamins” when I was nursing, with the doctor’s approval. My daughter outgrew her milk allergy when she was a couple of years old, by the way. Of course by that time she’d been weaned for a year, and had been drinking soybean formula from a cup.

tanookie. I really think you’re doing well, all things considered. I’m sure you’ll do even better when you’re able to take your baby home with you. You seem to be listening to people and experimenting to see what works best for you Remember to take care of YOURSELF as well as everyone else.

Incidentally, my husband used to get up when our daughter was ready to be fed, change her, and bring her to me in our bed sometimes. This was a really refreshing break for me. He didn’t do this all the time, but it was great when he did do it.

I’m starting to feel better about a lot of things… I got some real sleep last night and I think the pumping is improving. I’ve been keeping up with my baby vitamin regimin and my appetite is improving too. They didn’t let me eat for about 36 hours post surgery and the 12 before surgery so once I could eat again everything sat wrong on my tummy.

Also… and I’m trying really hard not to go too insane over this… Zachary may be coming home tomorrow!!!

There is no smilie to express how happy this makes me!

Thanks everyone for the support… it has meant a lot and the advice has been helpful too. When I’m pumping at 2:00am it is good to be able to come back to the thread and remind myself that I’m normal.

tanookie, I just wanted to let you know I’ve been following this thread and I wish you the best. I am so glad you are feeling better. Keep eating, that will help your milk supply and your recovery. And I am SO excited to hear that he might be coming home tomorrow!!

I am a breastfeeding mom myself, and while I didn’t have preemies (I had the opposite experience…BIG girls! 9 lbs 12 oz and 9 lbs 7 oz) I did have a csection with #1. I hope your recovery goes very smoothly from here on out.

Congratulations on your baby boy, and my hat is off to you for all the work you’re putting into pumping!!

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I just stumbled across this and was wondering how you and Baby Nookie are doing.

We’re both doing really well thanks :slight_smile:

Due to medical problems on my end I’m no longer breast feeding (needed to start taking medication that would not be good for baby) but it doesn’t seem to have phased him any… at his one month checkup he was 8 pounds 9 ounces!

He’s laying here on my lap sleeping and snoring.

His sister is adapting really well too! She likes to help me and is doing a lot of pretend mommying with her pink bear and her baby doll. Her only act of regression thus far is she likes to steal his binkies… she never used one at all and now she’s sneaking his. We can live with that.

Our house is a lot more hectic than it was (and that’s saying something) but we’re happy and that’s what counts!

Tanookie

I haven’t been Doping forever since I had a preemie in February, but I just wanted to bump this thread and see how your child was doing.

Mine was born at 30 weeks, 4 lbs.
He’s now 9 months old (almost 10), almost 25 lbs and walking!
It’s amazing how fast he’s come along. I do keep him at home and work nights and freelance because he was getting sick constantly at day care, but otherwise you’d never know he only baked 3/4 of the way!
:wink:

I hope you can report another success story-it’s always nice to hear how the preemies fare.

It’s great that you pumped for as long as you were able. Every little bit helps. My baby refuses to nurse too, and here I am still pumping! Granted, I’m down to getting next to nothing, but I’m still gonna do it until he’s a year old.
For some reason I’m just obnoxiously proud of that!
:rolleyes: :smiley:

Zachary’s 2 1/2 months old and is doing fine. He’s 13 pounds now and a little porker baby :slight_smile: We’ve finally gotten to some of the fun stuff as he likes to giggle and smile at us and his sister really likes him so we’re very pleased with that.

Glad to hear good things about your little one! Time does go very quickly with the little ones. It seems like someone hit the fast forward button on us the day our daughter was born and it hasn’t slowed down since.

Every drop of milk you can give them is great :slight_smile: You should be proud!