Question about a product called "Instant DVD Maker"

Ok, one more question. I was looking at Dazzle’s web site and I noticed one of there products (DVC-150) uses USB 2.0, and claims you will get almost 25% better video than if you used USB 1.1. Does this mean a pruduct like Haupages will get even better quality video because it plugs directly into the PCI slot? This is pertaining making VCDs and Super VCDs.

mblackwell, check cnet.com regarding the ATI TV-Wonder; it got a lot of bad reviews. If you decide to buy it anyway, cnet does list differnt on-line store prices; I got a good deal on my digital camera that way.

I just found out that AVI2MPG works fine with files I recorded directly from TV but not with files I have downloaded from the NET because these have much slower frame rates and AVI2FILE will generate as output only three rates: Movie (24), PAL (25) and NTSC (30), so if you convert an AVI with low frame rate you end up with a bigger file due to all the frames which have been interpolated. I wish it would just keep the original frame rate.

I would not get anything which is USB 1.1 as it is just too slow. I have no experience with USB 2.0 but I would go for internal PCI without any doubt.

USB 2.0 devices have a design data rate of 480 Mb/s, whereas USB 1.1 devices have a top data rate of 12Mb/s.

Of course, if your PC’s USB port was designed under the old 1.1 spec, it doesn’t matter if the USB device connecting to it is 2.0, because it’s going to drop down to the 1.1 speed for the connection.

They don’t have a review for the full version, just the VE version. Anyway, most reviews I have read say the ATI software sucks, but the card is a great deal if you can get it working and use free software.

So I unpacked the old VCR which had been stored for some years now and. … It is totally dead. Nothing happens. Argh! :frowning:

Just a quick note on why I recommended routing all the video through the VCR and not really needing the tuner part of that. I just find it simpler for recording things if I only have one source to mess with. No matter if I’m recording from live tv, or a tape, I always use the composite input on my card. So while I have to set the VCR (actually in my case the satelite reciever) to the channel that I want, the computer is set up to always record off the same input. Just one less thing for me to screw up when recording.

x-ray - Unless you’re looking at some high quality video, I can probably assure you that you won’t notice a degradation of the signal due to the devices you’re routing through. You’ll have more degradation based on how you encode it. Personally, I find that VCD quality is very very poor for a lot of what I recorde. SVCD is about on par with VHS in my opinion. So don’t worry too much about sending the signal through a vcr to the computer, worry more about how you’re going to capture and store the file. A breakdown just from my own personal expirience:

MPEG 1 (VCD standard) - Almost unwatchable. Sure I can tell what is being shown, but mostly only because I knew what it was in the first place, ok for quick and dirty files you want to send over the net, as they are the smallest file sizes, but for archiving home movies that havea high personal value, I’d aviod it.

MPEG 2 (SVCD/DVD standard) - Much better. Files that I record in this format look just about as good when played in my DVD player, as the originals on VHS do. Larger file size, and you can run into stand alone DVD players that do not support this file type.

**AVI (lowest compression) **- About the best quality recording that you can get. But the file sizes are huge. An hour of program will be about 4 Gig in size. Which makes it problamatical for storage, unless you have a DVD burner.

As you get more and more involved with this, you’ll find that there are more options that you can imagine, and it does take a while to get used to them. For example, the resolution and frame rate that you capture at makes a big difference in both the size and quality of the file. A higher resolution will look better on a big screen, but create a bigger file. Smaller resolutions may look great in a window on your computer, but when played through a stand alone DVD player on a TV set, will have noticable artifacts, and look crappy. As I recommended before, whatever you decide to go with, spend some time playing around, burning small snippets, to find what works best/easiest for you. Also, consider that capturing a file, and creating a CD or DVD that you’ll give to someone are two different things. I might capture my home movies in a very high resolution and huge file size for my own records, and watching on the computer, then re-sample at a lower size for distribution to friends and family. But since that digital copy in some cases may be the only thing I keep, I want at least one copy in the best quality I can manage.

Sailor - Sorry to hear about the vcr dying on you. And if you’re looking to trade film online, Divx is the way to go. It’s widespread enough that just about anyone that does seriouse video capture and sharing will be familiar with it, you can encode at very high resolution with very small file sizes (small for video files), and they are starting to make some set top DVD players that can actually play Divx files. See here for more info on the set top players, and go to www.divx.com for more info on divx.

I can’t give any info on the USB 1 or 2 for the dazzle connection, except to say that I’d check and see if your system has a USB 2.0 connection, and get that if you can. Although if you’re computer is more than a year or so old, you probably don’t have that.

Oh and sailor, I expect distribution of aformentioned films later :wink:

Atrael, actually it is not commercial movies I want to transfer but personal (wink) tapes.

DivX sounds like a good idea too. Since I have some time before I can get a working VCR I will look into it. Can you recommend any program to encode in DivX?

I have to disagree with you about MPEG1 (VCD). I have quite a few VCDs I have purchased commercially and they are about the same quality as a TV picture and good enough to enjoy the program. I have all the Fawlty Towers series as well as a few Asian movies and they work fine. And what I have recorded directly with my TV tuner card also has come out pretty well. I cannot see much gain from using the higher bitrate of SVCD but, of course, this would make sense when recording HDTV. Also, the tapes I want to transfer are old and not the best quality so VCD quality would be more than enough.

I don’t think this has been mentioned yet, but make sure your computer is beefy enough to handle the video capturing process. On my friend’s PII system, he dropped frames like crazy using a ATI All-In-Wonder Pro. Maybe the newer capture cards do more processing onboard, and the CPU and PCI bus speed matter less?

Sailor - Got the idea about the personal tapes…which is why I wanted to be slid a copy… :wink:
I’d try out some of the programs listed here for divx encoders. I haven’t really played with them that much, because of the sound problem I mentioned earlier. I will say that I’ve gotten more than a few .avi files encoded with Divx, where a 45 minute program was around 300Mb in size. At a 720x480 resolution. Great looking stuff.

I guess it could be either my player, or encoding software that gives me such problems with VCD quality, maybe I’ll go back and try with some other captured files. Are you watching the VCD’s on your computer, or through a set top player? The files that I look at on my computer in a window are fine, but when displayed through my DVD player, are just terrible.

Anonymous Coward - Good point about the system requirements. I’ve found that with a 1.7Ghz system, and 256 MB of RAM, I can capture at just about any bit rate, with no loss of frames. I wouldn’t reccomend anything less than a 1Ghz system or so. Also, the All in Wonder cards rely on software encoding to MPEG format, where some other cards have a chip on the capture card that will encode to MPEG. Those cards should require fewer system resources to operate.

I am running an Athlon 1800XP with 512 MB RAM so I hope it would be enough for the capture and then reasonably fast for editing and conversion.

Atrael, I am watching the VCDs on my computer and they look fine. I do not have a separate player but I will ask my friend to do the test in hers. At any rate, if they look fine in the computer, then they are fine and the problem is with the player and/or TV set. For me, as long as they look good enough on the monitor I do not need more.

I have downloaded some DivX-encoded movies, including the one of a plane landing on a California highway, and they definitely look very good. Well, what do you know, I went to play it and it won’t play right with the new DivX codec even though it played fine with the older one. An now the site does not offer the movie in DivX but only Quicktime (which I hate) and Windows Media (which I hate only slightly less).

Sailor - Yeah, a lot of the older codex’s don’t always work with the new players. Although I’m fairly sure you can download all the old versions of the codex, and your media player should be able to choose the right one. Check out the forums there for advice, and common problems. I’m willing to bet that not only has someone had that same problem, but that someone else has come up with a solution.

A great movie to download is Duality (pick the Divx download). It shows the resolution capable with dixv, at a good file size.

Atrael, it seems the newer version of the codec overwrote the old one and now, if I try to install the old one it will warn me it will overwrite the newer one, so it seems they cannot coexist peacefully.

BTW, I have used DivX to encode audio also because it works a bit better than Layer-3.

I also have the habit of keeping very high resolution photos as originals and then making more compressed copies, with smaller file size, to distribute. As CDR space is cheap I just keep everything (even if I can’t find it later). But I am only beginning to play with video and, if I want to transfer plain tapes of not very high quality, it seems VCD quality should be enough. If in the future I get better original recordings, then I will look into saving in better quality.

I am downloading Duality as I post this.

x-ray - I hope you don’t mind us discussing other capture issues here. There may be tidbits that help you, and it helps keep the topic bumped, and as we’re giving factual information, GQ mods shouldn’t mind.

Sailor - Try using Gspot to figure out what codex you need for individual files, then download just about every codex imaginable at the NIMO utility site. That will plug in just about every codex imaginable. Then use the much better Twins Player to view the all the files.

I have 950 mhz with 256mb ram :frowning: