So I first saw this joke by Mel Brooks on a show in the 80’s, Carson I think. And I’m pretty sure I saw him say it in a older clip, 60’s or 70’s…
I eventually assumed it was an old Vaudeville-Catskills era joke.
Lately I have been seeing people attribute it to people much more recent. Which made me curious, is there any definitive source about the origination of this joke?
ETA: maybe to make it more clear, a quick example.
Joker: What made me famous was learning the secret to comedy.
Straight Man: The secret to comedy?
Joker, Yes ,The secret to Comedy!
SM: What is the Secre…
Joker: (interrupting yelling) TIMING!!!
Not sure that makes it more clear when a joke is involved.
I remember a guy I worked with who thought that was the funniest joke in the world and would throw it in any chance he could. That puts it at least in the 1975-1978 era. My WAG is that if Mel Brooks told it, it certainly dates back to at least the Catskills/Vaudeville era. And if Rowan Atkinson was telling exactly the same joke at the same time in England, it probably goes back at least to the English music hall era. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in some discarded Shakespeare manuscript.
I have to admit that in Jr. High was me, which is one of the reasons why it stuck with me. Although it would take me many more years to encounter, and understand, the term “Meta humor”, it was the recursive , self-referential aspect of that type of joke that blew my mind at the time.