Question about the CSI premiere

Or some total deus ex machina like the finding of the hot dog vendor who went nuts over 50k in the last five minutes of the show with absolutely no previous evidence which pointed that way. Bah.

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Steven

Not quite, some of that horrid trim on his work shirt showed up at the crime scene, a red and blue basketweave pattern on white…somewhere about half way into the show. When the guy walking from the casino to the motel stopepd at the hot dog place, he saw the shirt, and asked the guy if he was the one that normally worked there and since he wasnt, he asked about the regular guy which led to teh raid and arrest.

Yeah, I liked that bit more than the rest. Far closer to real detective work than the contrived series of events in the other cases.

And wouldn’t it have been nice if forensics had something to do with solving any of the cases? :smack:

So does this mean Gregg peed in the ladies room?

Guess so. Hmm, if he didn’t notice the lack of urinals he deserves to fail his probation.

Yeah, technically, he could have noticed the water while in the men’s room, but it sounds better this way.

I hope he didn’t miss the bowl. That could cause an accident.

The sequence of events is crucial. JF and GE were told they were fired before either could report for the first day. I’m not picking on RealityChuck, I’m just trying to counter the stubborn misinformation that surrounds this subject. (link to original firing/re-hiring thread)

I have little to add to the OP except that it looked like an enormous amount of blood splatter for the wound we saw. Otherwise, meh. And Grissom is still sporting the neck wig - now that’s gross.

On the bright side, the alien/Elvis plot was a feast of inside jokes. Already mentioned were the “You are so late, what happened to you?” bit, and the casting of French Stewart (I’m ashamed to admit that I didn’t recognize him because he wasn’t squinting!). The best is zooming in to The Chapel of Intergalactic Love as a snippet of the “X Files” theme plays, and seeing the newlyweds dressed as Mulder and Scully.

That’s what bugged me. The guy happened across the stand, and co-incidentally noticed the uniform shirt. If he had traced the hot dog wrapper in the stiff’s apartment(tracing the timeline backwards) I would have been fine with it, but just happening to spot the vital clue when he himself is going out for a dog? That’s what bugged me.

Enjoy,
Steven

IIRC, Warrick was trying to replay a day in the life of ol’ dead guy. He was retracing the steps along the route from the casino to the motel. He was talking to people along the way who may have seen the guy, and his keen CSI memory kicked in when he saw the distinctive pattern on the shirt. Conversation ensues, ending in the raid and arrest.

Oh yeah - he was probably looking for a hot dog stand, since the deceased had a wrapper in his room. (Just like he was looking for a guy who sold Clark cigarettes.)

Right. Which is exactly the kind of police work you find on an average episode of Law and Order. Not what I tune into CSI for.

Still not a bad episode. I presume this week’s will be better.

It wasn’t just a hot dog wrapper. Wasn’t there a few bites of hot dog left? You’re right about retracing the dead guy’s steps though.

Warrick had seen ketchup or relish packets in the dead guy’s apartment, and was retracing the guy’s steps. As Avarie537 said, something kicked in when he saw the pattern on the vendor’s shirt.

So that whole “ordering a hot dog for himself” thing was what, a red herring? It seemed that his motivation for going up to the hot dog stand and ordering a hot dog was being hungry, not retracing what the stiff had done. If he had asked questions before ordering and just picked up one for the road I would have seen it as part of the retracing. As it was it seemed he was following his stomach and stumbled across some evidence instead of following the evidence.

Analyzing the fibers from the uniform probably would have told him a lot. Uniform shirts for places that deal with greasy food all day are frequently made out of special fabrics which resist grease and stains. When I put in my time at McDonalds in my youth there were special uniform shirts we had to buy from the company which, no matter how hard I tried, just wouldn’t hold a grease or ketchup, or whatever stain. They came out of a normal wash looking pristine each time. They were kind of heavier and felt a bit more like nylon mesh than a nice soft cotton, but they didn’t get stained. Odds are this shirt would have fingered as a greasy food-service uniform. Since stiff didn’t have a job that becomes a lead as to who had been in the stiffs apt since the last time he had used his hotplate(would have melted if he had used it since the fibers were on it).

Analyzing the fibers is a CSI type activity. Retracing the steps and stumbing across critical evidence which points to a completely new suspect while getting yourself a hot dog seems more like happenstance than detective work.

Enjoy,
Steven