Well yes, but that was all at the beginning of the movie. Her memories returned very close to the end.
I think that sort of makes the Hatter’s point though- of course she hadn’t forgotten completely, but the memories got so buried in her mind that she had, more or less, forgotten.
Well, as adults, we have new experience happen all the time, and we don’t end up losing our memories of olden times. Yeah, we lose all sorts of memories of earlier childhood, but we don’t lose so many memories of earlier adulthood, especially not those of traumatic or wild experiences. I can totally see her misplacing her memories of the first time around in Wonderland, but I think this time around she wouldn’t have any trouble remembering. Besides, if she was really concerned, she could write a journal or a book of some sort.
Still not buying it 
I’m not so sure about that. I worked at one hospital from age 19-22, on the night shift. Anyone who has worked nights in a hospital can tell you, we indeed had some wild times (and a lot of fun). I had coworkers who I also hung out with outside of the hospital, and one or two pretty close friendships. But after moving around (a lot!) and experiencing a lot of life in the meantime, when I made a Facebook account a few months ago and tried to remember names to reconnect with them, I drew a total blank on all but 3 people. I can remember what some looked like and and I can remember a few partial names, but very much of that time (and the “characters” I met) is just a blur now.
Since Alice was 19 when she returned to Wonderland, I can completely buy the premise that she will not remember much about it upon her return to the real world, and certainly not much once she goes on to adult responsibilities, running a business and what not.
It would be something (to me) that wouldn’t be journaled because she would be sure that she’d never forget it, but by the time she was old (like me ;)) it would all be hazy, like a dream where you can barely remember only one or two details.
Well, if I ever rode a Bandersnatch and slayed (slew?) a Jabberwocky, I’d damn sure not forget about it… Hmph.
Besides, she remembered the caterpillar, and that was at least a few weeks after her return to the real world. I’m not giving up on this one haha.
Lastly, if she ever starts forgetting, she already knows how to go back and visit. It’s worked the same way twice before! Getting to Wonderland sure isn’t very difficult.
Unless she forgets how. 
And just so you’re not confused by the Pan aspect of it there is a twist on Aesop’s fable of The Lion and the Mouse. You’ll want to keep one eye open for that.
Well then she’ll just have to fall in by accident again. It’s rabbits all the way down!
That was also blatantly obvious to my Chinese wife, and quite disturbing.
You have a lot of time to dream impossible things when you’re hooked on opium 
I couldn’t look at Tweedledee and Tweedledum without picturing them as Marjorie Dawes and Ting Tong.
Oh, and I had no trouble with any of the fantasy [del]Wonderland[/del] Underland stuff, but…
…a woman, any woman, let along a girl like Alice being given a job like that in Victorian England? :dubious: Yes, it’s incredibally silly to get hung up on that particular example of unreality, but still.
Especially right after she snubs whats-his-name.
By the end of the movie I was thinking “Oh, come on… there’s no way that’s even remotely plausible.”
And I was also a little concerned by the strong implication that Alice is not completely sane, which did rather shift the “tone” of the movie for me- and not necessarily in a way I liked.
And it seemed to me that the end of the movie involves A not-completely-sane young woman being despatched to China as an Opium merchant, possibly to prevent her causing any further embarrassment to the family, which is… probably not the way the movie should have ended, IMHO.
[spoiler]I thought he was going to show up as a frog butler as soon as I saw him in the initial scenes; he would have been perfect for that type of Wonderland alter ego.
Was anyone else amused by the Victorians in the mundane world scenes using lines from the original AiW book?[/spoiler]
Martini Enfield: I think that the implications towards Alice’s character were in line with a lot of the attitudes of Victorians that Carroll was originally trying to portray: anyone outside of the norm “must be crazy” or have something inherently wrong with them. Only crazy or immoral people act and believe outside of the spoken and unspoken norms. Also, in regard to the opium trade bit: maybe he was hoping she’d get hooked on the opium while over there and be “lost” to the dreamworld she seemed to already be living in. A terrible act to send her off and put her in harm’s way, but it’s an easy solution for both families.
It was a bit of a bizarre take on Wonderland, but it was more riffing off the concept and the books than trying to recreate either tale.
Possibly, but even so, I didn’t think they actually needed to come out and effectively say she was mentally ill (as opposed to merely “a bit odd”- and even by modern standards, Alice couldn’t really be said to be playing with a full deck.
Also, Victorian society was full of odd people- Eccentrics, the sort of people who’d insist their servants refer to them as “Ramesses Nibblick III Kerplunk-Kerplunk Whoops Where’s My Thribble?” and dress their dogs up in people clothes and express an irrational fear of Question Marks and so on. So Alice wouldn’t actually have been all that unusual in that regard, especially if she was married to a Lord..
Wait, I’m confused. Alice is only crazy if Wonderland isn’t real. But, aren’t we supposed to believe it is? She’s either completely sane albeit a bit scatterbrained or she’s totally off her rocker.
If you think about it There’s nothing in the film that’s inconsistent with Alice being completely loony… She runs off from a party, falls down a rabbit hole and hits her head, struggles to get out of the hole at the base of the tree, and re-emerges with scratches on her arm, torn and dirty clothes, and messed up hair. Also, [del]Majorie Dawes and Ting-Tong[/del] Tweedledum and Tweedledee are clearly inspired by two female acquaintances of Alice’s (and she says as much) and you could probably find parallels with most of the other people in her “Real” life with those in Wonderland- much like Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz, now I think about it.
Now you’re saying Oz isn’t real?! Well, I never! storms off
And a similar theme/debate can be found in Pan’s Labyrinth too.
The whole issue of having forgotten and forgetting in the future would make a lot more sense if they’d been more consistent with it. About 50% of the movie prior to falling in the rabbit hole is spent establishing that Alice has dreamt about her first time in Wonderland every single night for at least 13 years.
They needed to have decided on either a Hook style ‘she forgot Wonderland’ and a “I know all this but I’m dreaming so it’s not real” thing, but they did both. Having her forget her last visit would have been fine except for inexplicably setting up that she dreamt about it every single night. Given that, it’s hard to believe she’ll forget about it in the future since it didn’t make any sense she forgot about it the first time.