Question for the Ladies: Symbols, Icons, and Popular "Stuff"?

I was so out of touch, I wasn’t aware they actually existed. The only time I’ve heard about them was in sitcoms and movies and I assumed they were mostly made-up.

I’ve been to pig roasts, gun rallies, tailgate parties, and demolition derbies. But none of them were men only.

Same here. Maybe I should join this one…

Some go to pig roasts and gun rallies. Others go to gun roasts and pig rallies. It all depends on what you like. :slight_smile:

I’m certainly biased, but my unscientific observation has been that women often get together to accomplish something they are all interested in accomplishing, while men often get together to talk. It sounds backwards according to the old stereotype, but it’s what I’ve actually seen.

I’m not saying men don’t accomplish anything; I’m saying they don’t habitually plan a special time and place to gather for that purpose.

Wine.

I’ve never been to one. But if I’d known that they talk about sports and motorcycles, well, I still wouldn’t have been to one.

I could use something like that, myself. Was it any good, and who organized it?

Also: Why do you need a “retreat” to do these things? Just do them–without retreating. They’re not illegal or anything.

Every few years friends of mine hold MensTown, a camping weekend for guys only. We drink a lot, smoke weed, eat mushrooms or acid, and shoot clay pigeons. Surprisingly there have been zero fatalities and the injuries have all been minor.

So would I. That just sounds creepy.

Forget chicks, man. Tonight, let’s just go and dance.

That doesnt sound too far off. Well the price is. I noticed that one cost $1080 for 5 days. Our events are usually just weekends.

Would they do some “guy stuff” like shoot skeet maybe?

Because just getting together with fellow men is just… good now and then. Same way women like to sometimes do things without any men being around.

Its normally just a weekend.

Shoot skeet is “guy stuff”? I’ll make sure I tell the ladies shooting it out of El Cerro next time I see them.

Your above sounds more like a workshop. Those are good but these events are more to just relax, hang out, have fun, and make some friends.

Actually second thought, that sounds more like a money making facility where they run these events with the purpose of selling hotel room nights.

That’s fine and I respect that. What do you think of the idea of single gender activities in general?

Ok, that is popular. But is there an overall theme or common activity? I mean you can drink wine at home.

Although I enjoy off-roading, shooting, BBQ, campfires, and hunting (with a cheap camera to prove my “kills”); and while I enjoyed and am proud of my military service I think military camo is highly inappropriate for civilian use and tantamount to ‘stolen valor’. I would retreat from an event as described in the OP. Double time if it were sponsored by a supposedly “religious” organization as I don’t think any of these ‘symbols’ positively influence men to be their best. “Macho” is what drives the leadership styles of dictators and I have no use for it.

Show me a retreat where men can talk about their experiences with vexing man stuff like aging, financial and marital insecurities (what the fuck is wrong with my dick, and what are my options?), activities they don’t understand that their teens are into, dealing with cars being too hard to repair these days, planning for retirement when employers don’t plan on making it possible, and yes: when is it time to send your kid to rehab, what goes on there, and what will it look like when they return–basically, how does one get by as a 50 year old guy in a world that is completely unlike the one Dad lived in when he was 50? Show me a retreat like that and I just might start going to church.

ETA: Single gender activities I think can be useful because there is stuff I as a guy would rather just muscle my way through rather than talk to my wife about. She’s great and all, but she has no idea what it’s like to be a guy.

Excellent ! :smiley:

Sent you a private message.

Not long ago I had a “night out” with three other men and no wives. We were all in our 60s. Eventually we ended up talking about enlarged prostates and cholesterol drugs. It was okay for an evening, but if it had been an entire weekend retreat, we would have ended up more depressed than when we started.