Question for Those of You With Cooking Skills

Personally my domestic skills are just about nil. Zip. Zero. Nada. Our apartments have always been a disaster (I’ve sent people to the gas station up the street for toilet privileges) and I know every fast-food restaurant in a 20-mile radius. This is not for a lack of cleaning supplies or cookbooks; I just don’t know what I’m doing. Worse, the results of my efforts have always fallen short of my expectations, quashing further attempts.

But I’m trying to mend my ways.

Now my Aunt keeps a tidy house, neat as a pin, so I asked her for tips. Her recommendation was to break it into 5-minute tasks and keep after it all the time, particularly by cleaning up messes as they occur. This is helping quite a bit, 5 minutes I can handle, spot-cleaning works. Progress is taking place.

Now I have a question for you cooks.

How do you succeed in putting good meals together, day after day? Especially if you’re also taking care of children? I’m not talking hotdogs and mac & cheese, I can do that. I’m talking something that’s actually both tasty and good for you. I always seem to be missing an ingredient, something didn’t thaw, I had to do something else at a critical moment in the preparation and a step was delayed. Or it’s just too much work - how do you keep it from being so much work?

Or are you waiting until both parents get home? Is everybody else in America eating dinner at 8:00 pm? Is that how you find the time? I always figure those cooking shows are ridiculous b/c everything’s already chopped and measured.

Or do you just make 1 decent meal/week & eat out otherwise? 'fess up now!

What’s the secret?

I don’t think there’s any one secret to putting nutritious, tasty meals together, and on a reasonable time frame. It usually takes me about 30-45 minutes to “do” dinner. The problem with the cooking shows (as opposed to how I really cook) is that they do everything fresh. Not me. We buy stuff like onions and red, yellow and green peppers a bunch at a time, chop them all up and freeze them in zippie bags. I hardly ever measure these kinds of ingredients, either. Just toss in a handful. Canned tomatoes (especially the seasoned ones) are also very handy. So, here’s what I do: the first step I took was to make a master list of entrees that I know how to cook that my family (mostly) likes; I say mostly, because my 13-year-old doesn’t like anything; I arranged this list by main ingredient, like chicken dishes, beef dishes, etc.). I used to do meal planning weekly, but now I do it monthly, and like that better. But let’s say you’re going to do it weekly. Sit down with a pen and paper (or word processor) and list 7 entrees you know how to cook that aren’t too difficult; then, based on how busy certain days are (I do Crock Pot meals on really busy days), decide which entree you’ll make which day; then decide what side dishes go with the meals. Using this list, put together a master grocery list, buying all of the things you need for the entire weeks’ dinners (you can even use your markets sales circular to plan the least expensive meals, i.e. heavy on the chicken when it’s on a good sale). Consult your weekly meal list each morning, so if you need to get anything out to thaw, you can do it in the morning.

Also, if you’re making something that can easily be doubled (meatloaf, stew and chili all come to mind), make two batches, and freeze half, so that if something happens that you don’t have a planned dinner one night, you have fall back in the freezer.

This sounds like a lot to do, but if you break it down into steps (like your cleaning), you can do it. Once you get used to it, it won’t even bother you any more.

Come up with three lists of things. Have some vegetables, starches and main courses in each list.

List 1: Stuff you can make if you are really ready to cook. Lasagne, made fresh. Vegetable dishes that require cooking in the oven. Mashed potatoes. Some pasta.

List 2: Stuff you can make if you have half an hour to prep. Lasagne, made last weekend & then frozen (yes, it takes an hour plus to cook, but it takes two minutes to take it from the freezer to the oven). Salad. Frozen french fries or mashed potatoes. The rest of the pasta.

List 3: Yaah! The cat’s on fire! Stuff you can make in pretty much no time. Boiled kielbasa. Baby carrots. Stovetop stuffing.

So, you’ve got these lists. Several of each type of food on each list. Depending on your energy/time/food on hand, you can mix and match.

burundi and I probably average cooking one night a week each. We do eat dinner late sometimes, and we eat a lot of leftovers: if I make soup, I make a whole lotta soup, and we’ll nosh on it for three or four days until we’re thoroughly sick of it.

On nights that we don’t cook and don’t eat leftovers, then we’ll scrounge (maybe making sandwiches or mac n cheese), or we’ll go out to eat.

But our major secret is leftovers.

Daniel

menu plan online=)

Sites like this one are great if you dont mind using boxed mixes, canned or frozen stuff - I think they get some sort of financial support from companies like Liptons, Campbells and the like as many of the meal components involve ‘convenience foods’ like lime sauced chicken which uses Maggi brand buillion cubes and Libbeys Apple Juice in the recipe. It is [IMHO] a decent way to get used to th idea of cooking instead of eating out=) and you can also menu plan for a week, and make out a grocery list as well=)

Now, I grew up in a 2-working-parent home and I consider 8-9pm to be a perfectly civilized hour to eat dinner. So that does enter into it.

But the food I cook on weekdays really isn’t all that fancy. Some sort of protein (which 90% of the time I grill on the George) + some sort of vegetable (which 90% of the time I steam and butter). I have a few dishes which are more complex but still doable on a weeknight (chicken parmesan and ham/cheese/broccoli casserole spring to mind). And then quite a few things I only ever make on weekends because they require attention.

I also shop with specific dishes in mind so that I have everything I need for that week’s meals. This becomes quite easy with practice although it is a little tough at first.

By the way, “having everything chopped beforehand” – mis en place if you’re feeling fancy – is a good idea for any cook. Especially if you’re trying to bring several dishes to the table at once.

Do your elaborate cooking on the weekends, when you have more time. During the week, make simple things or eat leftovers. At least once a week, cook a large batch of something freezable, so that is available when it’s leftover time. Keep a good supply of staples on hand (onions, rice, pasta, etc.) - that way you can throw together a side dish or two without having to shop for ingredients.

If you are missing one ingredient, often it is possible to leave it out, if it’s not hte main ingredient.

If a recipe calls for some herb that you don’t have, you can usually substitute some other herb, and end up with something that is different, but still good.

Do all your chopping and measuring before you start - that way you can be like the people on the cooking shows with their pre-chopped ingredients. It’s easier that way, too.

I try to break it down as basically as possible. I suffer from Rut syndrome, where I eat the same thing every week for months, get sick of all of it and change my diet completely.

So, for right now, the plan is to eat whole, fresh foods as much as possible. The trick is to keep stuff on hand that can be mixed and matched. I divide my lists into three categories.

Salad. Always keep salad stuff in the house. I use those bags o’ salad, and if I buy whole veggies, I’ll chop everything on Sunday and keep it all in zip locks. Publix now conveniently offers pre-chopped fresh veggies which are more expensive but great if you’re lazy. When I need a salad, all I have to do is assemble the salad. So that takes 5 minutes. When I run out of broccosprouts, then the salad just has more cilantro (or whatever I do have on hand) in it. I keep more on hand than I need in a single salad, so I can alternate ingredients not eat the same salad twice a day, and so you still have a salad if you run out of one thing.

Vegetables. I should have at least one other vegetable besides the 17 or so that are in my salad. So, when I shop for the week, I pick two or three veggies that I’m going to eat. Wash and chop on Sunday. Vary which veggies and how they’re made through the week. Monday: sauteed green beans. Tuesday: sauteed broccoli. Wednesday: fried zuchinni. Thursday: steamed green beans. I do not buy frozen or canned. In fact, I’ve started to shop only the perimeter of the store, except for paper goods.

I’m not buying much bread, rice, pasta or carbs in general. If they’re in the house, I’ll make Carb Meals which make me feel sluggish. Note: I am NOT doing a low-carb diet, per se. Just trying to not live on pasta alone. If it’s not in the house, I won’t over do it.

Meat/Protein. I pick several sources of protein for the week. I don’t eat land animals, either. So Monday is fake chicken patties. Tuesday it’s shrimp. Wednesday, grouper. I buy all that on Saturday and cut into portions and freeze. (Or clean the shrimp, whatever). Most stuff gets cooked in the toaster oven in about five minutes (a button labeled, “Pop Tart” on my toaster oven. Truly, it takes about “pop tart” to cook four fake Buffalo wings. Actually, just about everything cooks in “pop tart” in this toaster oven…), or thrown in my Foreman grill … where it gets cooked in about five minutes.

So I have my salad, a veggie and a protein source. All I have to do is assemble from what’s chopped and stored in the fridge. Also, I should point out that I never defrost anything. It can defrost while it’s cooking. I just cook slower and longer but I can’t be bothered to remember to pull something out of the freezer more than a few minutes ahead of time. Further, there are no fancy sauces or gravies or any monkey business like that through the week. Nothing that takes more than 15-20 minutes to assemble and cook. If it takes more time or effort, then it’s a weekend dish and I get the leftovers through the week.

For me it comes down to years of cooking, and liking to cook. I’ve developed many creative recipes over the years, as well as a basic understanding of ingredients, flavors, etc. Now that I have a family, I can come home and throw things together and it usually just works out.

For instance tonight, I made chicken in an herb/cream sauce and broccoli. (Started up on Atkins again today so no starch, but could have easily added some rice or pasta.)

On hand - chicken breasts, light cream (kept around for coffee), basil and parsley from the windowsill garden, parmesan cheese, frozen broccoli, garlic.

I sliced the chicken breasts into chunks, salted, and sauteed in olive oil. Then threw in sliced garlic and cream, cooked for 3 or 4 more minutes, and added chopped herbs. Parm cheese on top. Broccoli cooked in microwave toward end chicken.

Prep and cooking time was about 30 minutes, while 3 year old ran around the kitchen pretending to be Cinderella. Husband got home in the last 5 minutes - he did the broccoli, set the table, and got 3 year old’s hands washed.

Key - keep frozen meats and veggies around, and convenience foods (pre-cut veggies, shredded cheese, etc.). Keep some starches in the cupboard (pasta, rice). Things for various sauces are handy - chicken broth, tomato sauce, cream, vodka :D, garlic, lemons.

Meat can always be defrosted in the microwave quickly. Grilling is great because you don’t have as much cleanup. If you have the fore-thought to put meals together in the morning, a crock pot is a wonderful thing to have around.

Great quick dinners:
Pizza from pre-made dough (found in the deli or bakery department of many supermarkets), canned or jarred pizza sauce, pre-shredded cheese

Tacos from kit, same package of pre-shredded cheese, ground beef, canned chiles and bagged salad

Steak or fish on the grill, bagged salad, box of rice pilaf (like Near East)

Pasta and sauce - boil the water, open a jar… and bagged salad!

I’ve also proscripted my husband into cleaning whenever I cook, which helps with the workload and makes me less inclined to call for take-out.

I enjoy cooking, and always have. What I hate is doing dishes afterwards, so I am very fond of the one dish meal. This will be salad one meal, glop* the next, and so forth.

But the one thing I do that makes for quick meals without having to plan too far ahead is that I buy the club packs of chicken once a week, and then cook it all that day. (I prefer thighs for this, but it does work for breasts as well, just choose the meat you like best and use most often.) Then I break the cooked meat into meal sized portions (about 1/2 lb for me YRMV) and freeze most, with the rest going into the fridge. That way I can make a lot of dishes quickly just by reheating the meat, and mixing in quick steamed veggies. Since all the ingredients are cooked, or ready to eat, there’s no worries about a minimum cooking time.

The other thing I do is make one dish that I plan to have huge leftovers from. Eat one portion, put another one or two in the fridge for use during the next week, and then the rest, in individual portions, goes into the freezer. If you do this once a week, soon you’ll have a stock of several ‘meals-sorta-ready-to-eat’ in the fridge that are quickly prepared without having to skimp on taste.

Another thing I do is take the time when making special items, like homemade wonton for soup, frying or steaming, to make a huge batch and freeze 'em except for those to be used immediately. If I get surprise guests they’re shocked when I can produce fresh wonton soup in about 45 minutes. With maybe 10 minutes of that me in the kitchen doing actual work.

*What, doesn’t everyone know what glop is? Basically casserole, heavy on veggies, and some pasta in it. When I worked in a dining hall I had the terminity to mention to someone (a co-worker) that the food being served was some real good glop. The manager of the dining hall rounded on me furiously, asking if I’d DARE call something my mother had cooked ‘glop.’ I told her, sure I would: That’s what she called it after all. I think I broke her wittle mind. :smiley:

A Seal-a-meal, a bunch of bags, and a weekend evening and we are set for the week. The wife and I tend to cook mass quantities when ingredients are on sale or fresh, and freeze two-serving portions. Then it is just pop into boiling water and serve with a salad and a side.

As you can gather from the previous posts…planning is everything!!!

I also like to grill, and since I get home from work fairly early, this is the protein option several nights a week. Kebabs, chicken thighs, brats, etc. Not fret, and little cleanup.

I don’t have a whole lot of time during the week, so I tend to plan and write out my meals for the next several days over the weekend. One dish meals are wonderful. I usually have spaghetti sauce (my great grandmother’s recipe) frozen, a quart or so, as well as a couple casseroles in the freezer. Toss in the microwave, tada!, dinner. This book is a lot of help. My boss gave it to me for Christmas a couple years ago; I use it at least once a month.

I know this isn’t what you’re asking for specifically, but given your general “lack of knowledge” issue I strongly suggest you get a copy of Home Comforts: The Art and Science of Keeping House, by Cheryl Mendelson. It’s a fantastic book that you should get and read all the way through and then keep for reference for your household problems - tells you how to go about keeping your house neat, how to clean various things, how to get stains out, how long you can keep whatever in the fridge before it’s gone off, how to tell if you can try machine washing that “dry clean only” item - it’s a fantastic all-around housekeeping resource.

It also has some hints and tips on buying groceries and preparing menus, although of course that’s not its main focus. It’s a fantastic resource that dosen’t assume you know how to do anything, which makes it perfect - there’s a lot of stuff in it that I already knew, but there’s a lot I didn’t and the index is quite good.

I usually cook on my days off (hey, it’s better than waiting till seven to have the “I don’t know, what do you want” argument and not eating till 9 or 10), he tends to cook on the weekends, and we’re both on our own for meals where the other isn’t home. Sometimes we’ll cook, sometimes we’ll order out, sometimes we’ll scrounge.

The biggest thing for me is having a perpetual pantry. There’s a number of recipes that are easy enough I’m willing to make them (I am ahem not a kitchen-geared sort of woman) and that we both like, and I try to keep the stuff for those dishes on hand all the time. That way, I’ve always got something I can make without too much fuss or a trip to the store. It saves us a buttload of hunger-induced carping and bad temper, trust me. In addition to that stuff, I try to make sure we’ve always got stuff for snacks and scroungy throw-together meals.

Speaking of scroungy, throw-together meals, the more stuff you keep on hand, the more stuff you can just throw together. I’ve learned this through experience. There’s a lot of stuff my mother never had in her kitchen that I now consider staples. Before living with a foodie, it would simply never have occurred to me to keep fresh garlic, lemon juice, olive oil, or balsamic vinegar on hand, much less to keep a big bowl of salad chopped and ready to go and a bag of chicken breasts in the freezer. But having that stuff handy all the time really opens up the possibilities for fast, easy, healthy meals. I can walk into my kitchen right now and make you three different meals within the next 45 minutes, and they’re all tasty and healthy.

The other big thing is to think about your grocery shopping in terms of whole meals and leftovers. If I’m making one of my not-quite-stock recipes or trying out something new, I make sure I’ve got stuff to make the main course, side dishes, condiments, etc. I have a specific meal in mind before I put anything in my cart, so I’m not standing in the kitchen thinking, “Well, we could have burgers and fries, but we don’t have buns or potatoes. We could have meatloaf, but we don’t have any crackers or ketchup. Hmm, and we’re out of eggs, too. There goes making omelettes. I could make…aw shit, I’d have to go to the store for that, too. Screw it, I’m ordering a pizza.”

My personal favorite work-buster in the kitchen is the whole roast chicken. I get a pretty big chicken just about every week and roast it. It takes a long time to cook, but the prep work is practically non-existant. Out of that, we’ve got dinner that night, I’ve got lunch for a couple of days, and we’ve got meat to shred up and put on salads for at least one meal. (Some salad from the big bowl, a little leftover chicken, some almonds from the bag, some Craisins from the cabinet, and a little shredded cheese…you’ve got a healthy, damn tasty meal in about two minutes, right there.) All I do is rinse the chicken, use a pair of shears to cut out the backbone and the keelbone, rub it with a little mayo, sprinkle on some seasonings, and pop that bad boy in the oven. That’s the core of at least 3 meals for about 10 minutes of work.

Something else I’ve had a fair bit of success with is doing prep work for tomorrow’s dinner while you’re cooking today’s. This is especially great for long-cooking things like soups and stews or crockpot recipes. Then you can just toss it all together when you come in the next day.

You might also check out Rachel Ray’s 30-minute recipes. She’s got two books of complete meals laid out for you, and they’re all roughly 30 minutes to cook. (No, really, even I can manage them in about half an hour.) Some of them call for some non-staple ingredients, but if you go through and pick out 3 or 4 of those to make before you go grocery shopping, you’re all set for a tasty, healthy, fast dinner several nights a week. And then, of course, you’ve got some new ingredients on hand to work with for later meals.

I’m with ya on this one, but I do mine in the Crock Pot. I sprinkle the whole thing with lemon pepper seasoning (I remove the stuff from the inside, of course, and season inside, too), and cook it in the Crock Pot on low for 7 hours. We have chicken for dinner that night (a side of brown and wild rice, some canned chicken gravy, a salad and a veggie, bam, dinner’s done in no time at all); later in the week, I’ll make chicken-rice (another Crock Pot recipe) from the leftovers, plus we have chicken salad for lunch. A roaster doesn’t go as far for us as for you, because we’re a family of five, but still, two dinners and one lunch out of one chicken is pretty durned good. Also, every once in a while, my market has Perdue Oven Stuffer Roasters on sale buy one get one free. You can bet I snap right up on that puppy!

I do my best to plan a menu for a week. I can’t think ahead enough to plan for a month, and more often than not plans change and rather than eating whatever is scheduled for Tuesday, we will find ourselves dining out or at someone else’s house. It’s not unusual for my week menu to last 2 weeks.

I do all my grocery shopping late Thursday nights or late Friday nights. Have my trusty list and coupons at hand, and I try to leave LilMiss at home if at all possible. Whenever she comes with we end up with Fruit Chews and popcorn in the cart, stuff I would usually never purchase.

I buy ground meats in “super saver” packages (usually 4-6#), fry it all up, drain and rinse, then store in the freezer in 1# plastic containers.

When I go on a cooking bender, I put the garbage can right next to my prep area along with the counter washcloth. Clean as you go- makes life a lot easier.

Also, make sure your pantry is well organized. Sounds simple, but foodstuffs tend to migrate and when you’re looking for that can of soup you need and KNOW you have, you often have to dig around for it. I try to separate the foodstuffs I will need for whatever I am cooking that following week prior to grocery shopping. Too many times have I had to run to the store for a missing ‘key’ ingredient- it was a pain in the keister. Now by having the top shelf organized for the week makes cooking a tad bit more pleasant.

Another couple of good cookbooks are The Minimalist Cooks Dinner and The Minimalist Cooks at Home both by Mark Bittman, who writes the Minimalist food column for the NYTimes and has also written How to Cook Everything which won pretty much every award a cookbook can win.

Both books have lots of easy, simple, tasty, recipes to choose from.

Jumpin’ Jehosephats, Batman - I’ve struck GOLD!!

Thank you so much, everybody, for your wonderful suggestions, ideas & recommendations - some stuff I can implement immediately, some stuff I can aim for down the road, and new twists on favorites!!! Plus book recommendations! I’ll definitely be looking into those!

Isn’t it interesting how everyone keeps house?

Wow, that $5 investment just keeps paying & paying!

Thank you for sharing!!!