Who were the two characters in the opening scene (in which a man at a fancy party approached a woman, embraced her and then shot her), what was the voice-over talking about (“a job?”), and did this scene have anything to do with the rest of the movie?
Am I right in thinking that there is some complex relationship regarding the time frames of the three main storylines? The initial Det. Hartigan scenes took place at least eight years before the others? In the final Hartigan scene, we briefly see Kevin, apparently unscathed from his encounter with Marv, so even this scene took place earlier.
Whose heads did Kevin have mounted on the wall? The glimpse I got gave me the impression that they were pretty much all the female characters who appeared throughout the entire movie.
The man is “The Salesman” a hitman, the woman is “The Costomer”, who hired him to kill her, he dosn’t know why, it is just a job to him. The Salesman also appears in the elevator at the end, somone has hired him to kill Becky. Kind of as a framing sequence.
There are three stories and a framing sequence.
The stories are: The Hard Goodbye (Marv), That Yellow Bastard (Harritigan), and The Big Fat Kill (Dwight) they are shown out of order, but the sequence in time is:
That Yellow Bastard
The Hard Goodbye
The Big Fat Kill
Go to the IMDB (Warning, here there be Trolls) message board for this film and be amazed by the amount of speculation as to the identity of the heads on the wall. People have seen pretty much every female character in the movie up there, however according to the story and the graphic novel they are just random hookers. The speculation is made worse, by the fact that the "heads" are uncredited, and the fact that of all the scenes that people have screencapped and put on the web, this one shot isn't one of them. I suspect this part of the discussion will continue until the DVD comes out.
Well, Marv, Hartigan, Yellow Bastard and the waitress are all at the strip joint.
The night Hartigan kills YB.
I suspect that it is the same night that Marv comes to the farm and Dwight meets Jack, but that was just my guess. So, in my mind, the final Hartigan scene, the start of the Marv sequence, and the Dwight sequence all take place the same night.
I’m fully prepared to be told I missed something obvious and that I’m completely wrong.
I suspect it’s the same night Marv meets Blondie. I don’t think that’s the same night he comes to the farm, but it’s hard to tell. The Marv story seemed to span a couple days.
Yeah, I definately got the impression that his quest took a couple of nights to finish up. and since he wasn’t cut up at all in the bar scene it had to be before the killing.
A couple problems I had involved the scene at the farm with Hartigan and YB. Kevin looked to be such a bad-ass in the Marv sequence, viscious fighter, stealthy and alert. Yet, when Hartigan came and none-to-quietly dispatched of YB he was seen polishing a blade very close by. WFT? No love for bro?
Also, are YB and Kevin complicit in their Whore-killing or what?
Kevin is YB’s cousin, the son of the Cardinal (Bishop?) Rourke while YB is the son of the Senator Rourke.
However, he very well could have been reading a bible, would have made sense. Needless to say I can’t really believe that he’d disregard Hartigan out of ambivilance. He was pretty proactive in his own defense against Marv and you’d have to assume that the same would be the case with Hartigan, his sick fetish could have been exposed etc.
Kevin might have been busy with business of his own when Hartigan went to work on the Yellow Bastard. I imagine his hobbies are the sort that lend themselves to sound-proofed rooms. Or, at least, make it hard to hear the outside world over all the screaming.
Kevin was definitely reading the Bible, I remember the huge white cross contrasting with the black cover very succinctly (my memory is fresh, I just saw it last night). I’m voting that he was ignoring it because it didn’t concern him. His “interests” didn’t really intersect with YB’s (other than being equally depraved and disturbing); it’s unlikely that they had a symbiotic relationship or anything.