You got it Mijin, **septimus **actually missed that I concentrate on the “way out” Trump gave himself, that it was ‘the Democrats are claiming that Trump was doing a bad job’ as the hoax. The point I made was that even that stupid explanation from Trump does not make it a Hoax, Trump did lie. Trump did and continues to do a bad job.
The reason why Forbes was mentioned was to point out that a conservative outfit like Forbes was having none of what Trump said, for what I think are good reasons:
Forbes (again not what I said, but just to show how even some conservatives see it) is in reality saying to Trump: ‘What [del]Capitalistic tools[/del] fools you think we are? Your base clearly got the message that it was a hoax, and your later equivocations, while making kinda sense, are just geared to convince others less cultish to “get it right”. Problem is that your base continues to get the meaning you actually wanted to told them and that is shown by the actions you took then, rather than your words.’