Racism in Bond movie "Live and Let Die"

Some spoilers!!!

Just saw this 1973 James Bond movie (Roger Moore’s debut in the role, IIRC) and was amazed. I’m not one to cry “racism” at the drop of a hat, but it was pretty blatant, I thought. Every black character except one (a CIA agent, who doesn’t make it to the end of the movie) is in league with the bad guy, “Mr. Big,” whose day job is prime minister of a Haiti-like country called San Monique but is also a heroin producer. There’s a cab driver who could be Stepin Fetchit’s grandson, a turncoat female CIA agent (different from the one I mentioned before) who’s both incompetent and very easily scared, and lots of hard-drinking, wildly-dancing, ghetto-talking extras.

Anybody else seen it lately? Was there any criticism of it as racist at the time it was released? I understand the original Ian Fleming book is about the same, including a chapter called “Nigger Heaven.”

I read it, though not at the time it was released. As I recall, much of the book expressed disgust at the idea of children of black/asian couples.

Some other opinions here.

I thought that it was more blaxiplotation then out and out racism. Just a bad facet of a bad movie which only had two things going for it: the awesome and totally un-Bond-like theme song and the opening scene (“Who’s funeral is this?” “Yours.”)

I was more than a bit troubled with it when the film was released back circa 1973, but it didn’t much seem to bother anyone else. I suspect some people thought it cool that a black guy could be a Bond villain.
Interesting thing, in any case – this is the only movie I’ve ever seen where a black guy wears an elaborate makeup disguise to completely change his appearance. Look at all the movies with white guys doing this – List of Adrian Messenger, Sleuth, etc. But no Black guys. I still don’t think I’ve seen it with someone of Asian ancestry. It’s rare with women, too, for that matter.

Well, there was the film with the guy (Lenny Henry) from Chef.

Remind me, what colour are the majority of the inhabitants of Haiti?

Quartz is right. Logically, especially given the era, the villain would have taken his support from blacks.

“Black Hawk Down” (the movie) was also extremely racist. All of the “villains” in the flick were black. While there were one or two black US soldiers shown, they looked EXACTLY like the “villains” except for the different uniform, facial features, and language.

FWIW, the book is worse.

Regards,
Shodan

Not all things from different eras age well. The Sean Connery Bond films were absolutely of their time but didn’t make such an obvious effort to be hip to the latest trends. Heck, one of Connery’s lines was that the Beatles were best taken with ear plugs. The early 007 was the sort of man who read Playboy which means he didn’t have to tell you he was cool, he knew it and everyone else did. In the '70s there seemed to be much more effort put into making Bond seem current rather than timeless. The result was flared slacks, lapels that could eat Cincinnati and crapfests like LoLD. I can imagine the pitch, “take a sauve masculine secret agent but make him prissy and fopposh and put him in Harlem.” Crap on a stick. I have to admit though the song was terrific and Yahphet Kotto was way cooler than Blofeld. I also liked voodoo man Geoffrey Holder’s hearty laugh but I kept expecting him to say “HAHAHAHA, the un-cola.”

Of course if you want proper blaxploitation nobody does it better
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You know what’s so ironic about that, don’t ya?

Two words- Fred Carter.

Sure it’s about racism and all but, IIRC, it was first posted in Cafe Society and then moved and I’m not really seeing any great debate here.

Fred Carter? He’s one bad mo…Shut your mouth!

Can you imagine if Jack had drawn Soul Story? I shudder to think but OTOH I tingle with delight at the possibility of a parody tract. Jack’s on tracts have had the “suck” dial turned up to 11 lately so I could do no worse.

This points out an element of race material, you can do it to your own race but it’s a different matter when an outsider does it. Chris Rock can have an HBO special about nothing but the N-word but a white comedian couldn’t.

Whether they be white, black, or purple taking Bond villians seriously is missing the point. :wink:

If anyone’s interested, here’s a list of the rest of the series of threads in Café Society:

The James Bond Film Festival. Part 1: Dr. No
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 2: From Russia with Love
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 3: Goldfinger
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 4: Thunderball
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 5: You Only Live Twice
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 1: Dr. No
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 2: From Russia with Love
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 3: Goldfinger
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 4: Thunderball
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 5: You Only Live Twice
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 6: On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 7: Diamonds are Forever
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 8: Live and Let Die
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 9: The Man with the Golden Gun
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 11: Moonraker
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 12: For Your Eyes Only
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 13: Octopussy
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 14: A View to a Kill
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 15: The Living Daylights
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 16: License to Kill
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 17: Goldeneye
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 18: Tomorrow Never Dies
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 19: The World Is Not Enough
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 20: Die Another Day
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 21: Casino Royale (1954)
The James Bond Film Festival. Part 22: Casino Royale (1967)

(I haven’t done Never Say Never yet.)

Oops. Didn’t notice the duplication of the first five links.

[sub](And sorry for trying to be such a control freak in the Dr. No thread. :o ) [/sub]

As I recall, Fleming’s deal with “Chigroes” was that they had the intelligence of the Chinese and the cunning of the blacks, and considered themselves above the blacks in Jamaica’s racial hierarchy.

Fleming vacationed every year in Jamaica, but he wasn’t the most racially sensitive of sorts. The only positive black character in his novels I can recall was Quarrel, who trained Bond in scuba diving in Dr. No and was torched by a flame thrower in Live and Let Die. Bond liked him, but Quarrel knew his place, calling Bond “Captain”, apparantly exactly as it should be when whites work alongside blacks.

And for the love of all that is good and holy, please don’t. I’d like to scour that film from my memory, at least, if I can’t actual abolish it from existence.

Live and Let Die was an attempt to cash in on the then popular blaxipoliation craze. One might as equally–and pointlessly–take umbrage at Goldfinger for defaming Koreans (off of Auric Goldfinger’s minions were Korean.)

Taking any Bond film–especially the generally exreable Live and Let Die is going way to far.

And, “Names is for tomestones, baby.”

Stranger

Except that Bond holds the rank of Commander in the Royal Navy. Near enough to Captain.

Going by old films I’ve seen, it seems common to assign an appellation to people you don’t know well; e.g., ‘Chief’, ‘Mac’, ‘Doc’, ‘Governor’. I took Quarrel’s ‘Captain’ to simply be such an appellation, not a sign of submission.