Radio Shack: I'm speaking Greek, they only understand Latin

Um, no. Cat3 is a network cable. Just not suitable for anything above 10Base-T. So it’s usually used in phone network applications. It’s also used for power-over-Ethernet, but with Ethernet side unused. It is not the same as the RJ11 ended wires you would use for connecting home-grade telephony equipment.

Note: Cat3/5e are 8 wires. Standard phone cables are 2-4 wire, but you can get 6 wire versions with the same plug size.

I used to use Cat3 for Ethernet all the time way back in the day before Cat5 became necessary.

I live in a fairly small place. I have to go about 25 miles to have any other choice than RS.

For the rare occasion that I darken RS’s door, I have developed a strategy. I basically ignore the staff until I find what I need and only talk to them at checkout.

I learned this by asking for a 120 pf 1/4 watt resistor and getting the dumb wasting stare.

I have no idea how they keep the doors open.

Capt

You’d get that same dumb stare from me, too. Resistor units are in Ohms, not picofarads. Speaking as a guy with 2 degrees in electrical engineering, of course.
I was in an RS fresh outta school the first time, when they still sold stereo components. Some annoying clerk was following me around being a monumental pain in my ass, so I pointed at a stereo amp that had FET as part of the logo.

“What does FET mean?”

“Oh. That means the Federal Excise Tax is prepaid.”

:rolleyes:

FET really meant that it used field effect transistors, which worked in a manner much more like vacuum tube and most importantly sounded like a vacuum tube amp, and were all the rage among the audiophile crowd in the 1980s.

I use eBay. And Cat6.

Never having heard of Forrest Mimms — which name sounds like a wistful 1920 American painter specialising in young nymphs staring into sunsets — he sounds quite impressive in Wiki.

Plus:

  • Mims alleges that Pianka advocated genocide with a genetically enhanced Ebola virus with the goal of exterminating up to 90% of the human population. Pianka has stated that Mims took his statements out of context and that Pianka was explaining what would happen from biological principles alone if present human population trends continue, and that he was not in any way advocating that it happen*

Sounds like a project for Bernadette Wolowitz !

**VB ** of course you are right, brain does not have enough coffee yet. That is 120 OHM 1/4 watt. I had to make some DMX terminators.

Capt/Jim

So why didn’t you use:

Do a search there for the product you are interested in and it will show local inventory.

If you find it make a printout of the search and take it to the store.

Test this–try it now.

So why would somebody with that kind of knowledge be working in retail?
The market demand drives what the market supplies. Apparently when the question was asked “What do you prefer? Low prices with low paid unknowledgable employees, or high prices with well compensated knowledgable employees?” the market spoke and we got what we got.

Well, of course. Everyone knows that the proper symbol for the farad is ‘F’, not ‘f’. They had no idea what you were talking about. :slight_smile:

Good test though. There are no more RadioShacks in Canada–their place has been taken by “The Source” due to some complicated multiparty corporate buyout that I don’t fully understand–but the stores are still the same. I haven’t been into one for about three years though. Maybe the componentry is making a comeback thanks to the Maker movement.

That would weed out the idiots, since it doesn’t make any sense at all…

:smack:

Oh, that was your point…

Used to be that nerds were happy working at Tandy (RS in Australia) during the day and playing dungeons and dragons at night but now because of Gates and Jobs they all want to rule the tech world!

I am glad to provide a little comic relief with my pre caffeine mis rememberings and wrongly stated values. The guy in question did not know what a resistor was.

Have a great day all

Capt

I suspect the Forrest Mimms referenced is this one. He was a revered experimenter who looked ideal to take over the Amateur Scientist column in Scientific American magazine until he admitted he didn’t really believe in science if it contradicted what his pastor told him.

You’re right. It was a Z-80 based machine. So was my ZX-81. So was my girlfriend’s father’s Wang. It was fun to diddle her,… err… her father’s machine.

Yes, that’s the guy. He is a creationist fundy loony toon. But his electronics books (written for and sold primarily through RS way back in the day) are excellent and justifiably renowned.

I wasn’t aware (or forgot) about an automatic memory refresh, but I loved the Zilog Z80. Double the internal registers of the 8080, an extended instruction set, also index registers so you could do (limited) relative addressing, and a faster clock speed. The 6Mhz version was the nucleus of many systems I worked with.

Speaking of Radio Shack, one of the employees at our local RS does fit the geek mold. I asked him for a XLR to mini-phone cable, and he knew exactly what I wanted. While he rang up my purchase, he clamped my twenty-dollar bill between his jacket and his sleeve, since he had only one arm.

So you had a thing for older men? :slight_smile:

I’m amazed that your RS had anything with an XLR connector at all. I usually have to go to Guitar Center for that stuff.

If you only started going to Radio Shack in the mid 80s you missed their heyday. In the 70s and even into the early 80s you couldn’t stump them on anything. Even beyond that you could still find knowledgable help if you went to the right stores. Where I was living in 1990 there were two RS stores, one in the mall that mostly had consumer gadgets, and a smaller one downtown that carried mostly cables, adapters, and electronic parts. If you asked for a breadboard at the mall store they’d try to send you to the kitchen store next door. If you asked for one at the downtown store, they’d ask what you were building and recommend some parts you might need. Unfortunately, that store was considered a relic and was closed down by 93 or 94.

I think I see the problem. Loew’s is a luxury hotel chain, where they could not care less what you’re looking for, but in a polite and patronizing way, of course. LOWE’S is the DIY hardware place.

Worst place in the world to work. Yes, worse than a Bangkok whore house. At least you could get something in your tummy once in a while there.

A poor RS slave was once overheard responding to a tech geek’s question about “Blah Blah Ohm Blah cap micro Blah Blah”:

“Dude, if I had the knowledge to answer that, you couldn’t afford to ask me!”