D_Anconia:
Yes it does.
If you used the word correctly, the argument it makes demonstrates even further your stupidity.
So you have nothing comparable.
And you fell for a juvenile “philosophy”.
Why are old people like yourself “confused” by fake bills, and why should we care?
It’s not even wrong for them to do it, according to you-you just mock those who might fall for it?
Because we are empathic human beings.
You are not an empathic human being.
And I’m not confused.
Pretty much. Do you respond to fake bills or other solicitations? Don’t answer the phone from unknown callers, and throw junk mail in the recycle bin.
It’s not that hard, even for Grandpas and Grandmas.
D_Anconia:
Pretty much. Do you respond to fake bills or other solicitations? Don’t answer the phone from unknown callers, and throw junk mail in the recycle bin.
It’s not that hard, even for Grandpas and Grandmas.
Hey, Bricks -here’s another for your team!
andros
March 27, 2016, 2:14am
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Guys, you realize that D’Anconia ’s shtick is being an arrogant prick, right? That’s what he hangs his online identity on, and he’s not going to back down when challenged on it. Quite the contrary: it just makes him jerk harder.
andros:
Guys, you realize that D’Anconia ’s shtick is being an arrogant prick, right? That’s what he hangs his online identity on, and he’s not going to back down when challenged on it. Quite the contrary: it just makes him jerk harder.
Yes but he generally takes the Republican side.
I don’t think I’ve seen him in any thread that are critical of Democrat/liberal actions.
As bad as the GOP is, he makes them look worse.
Do you agree that the thread specifically being about the GOP invites the inference that it’s only the GOP that is guilty?
And how much support did it garner?
wolfpup:
Emphasis mine. In addition to the fundamental differences that other posters have already noted, there’s also a little matter of law. A pretty strong case could be made that the RNC solicitation is blatantly illegal, because it’s exactly the kind of deception that the law is intended to target. The DNC one clearly is not. Are you able to understand why?
Oh, yes. Let’s talk about the law, and then let’s piously announce we never intended to talk about the law and this is purely a moral outrage.
It was an idiotic OP that didn’t deserve support…or are you proposing that we should have artificially propped it up out of some sense of “fairness”?
I can see why moral outrage would so befuddle you.
No loopholes.
Not addressed to me, but that’s a totally bizarre inference to draw. Does this thread invite the inference that only the Tribeca Film Festival coddles anti-vaxxers? Does this thread invite the inference that sciatica is the only disease that causes pain? Does this thread invite the inference that all non-Galloway British politicians are awesome?
Of course not. That’s not how complaining works.
No.
About as much as you’d expect on a MB that is predominantly liberal (by American standards). But that wasn’t the question.
Young men think old men are fools. Old men remember that young men are fools.
Speaking of complaining, this law seems to me to need a new section, reading something like this:
(1) Matter otherwise legally acceptable in the mails which constitutes a solicitation by a nongovernmental entity for information or the contribution of funds or membership fees and which
(2) is in the form of, and reasonably could be interpreted or construed as, a bill, invoice, or statement of account due; is nonmailable matter, shall not be carried or delivered by mail, and shall be disposed of as the Postal Service directs, unless such matter bears on its face, in conspicuous and legible type in contrast by typography, layout, or color with other printing on its face, in accordance with regulations which the Postal Service shall prescribe—
(A) the following notice: “This is a solicitation for the order of goods or services, or both, and not a bill, invoice, or statement of account due. You are under no obligation to make any payments on account of this offer unless you accept this offer.”; or
(B) in lieu thereof, a notice to the same effect in words which the Postal Service may prescribe.
Given that Bricker appears to be correct that this despicable flyer doesn’t violate the law, can we all agree that the above addendum to the law (or something very similar, with your improvements to the language noted) would be wholly salubrious to democracy?
Well, all of us except the vaguely sociopathic D’anconia, that is?
And then there’s this law on mail fraud ; my apologies if it’s already been discussed.
Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation occurs in relation to, or involving any benefit authorized, transported, transmitted, transferred, disbursed, or paid in connection with, a presidentially declared major disaster or emergency (as those terms are defined in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122)), or affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
It appears to me that the RNC devised a scheme to obtain money by the false pretense of making their solicitation look like a past-due bill. What am I missing here?